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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Here if I got this right here's the link Hognose, Garter, Water & Ribbon Snakes - Page 2 - FaunaClassifieds. If not she is on fuana classifieds for 1,000$.

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

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    What the heck!! Where is she posted?? My baby is for sale? @Tommytradix
    Yep! I was going to pick her up from Mike but i don't have a male to pair her up to. That was the biggest drawback for me. Steven Bol has males right now and they are some very high quality males that would go great with her.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Update time. She is about an inch bigger maybe more. Thing is she hasn't eaten for like a week from eating every other day or more. I haven't seen her eyes blue over. I notice a darker spot near where the adrenals are in this pic. When i pinch her body gently and run her between my fingers I can feel it pass between my finger tips. I don't know if this is a organ or blockage. Besides that she's fine. Active and curious. I've offered her different types of slugs, and earth worms. Tomorrow I'll try to find one of her more preferred slugs and try that again.

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    This is the time of year most garters slow down eating and some stop altogether in preparation for brumation. What temperatures are you providing for her? Warm side, cool side, and ambient and hot spot? It might be time to lower the temps all around. Just be sure if you do lower the temps make sure she hasn't eaten in at least two weeks prior.
    The dark spot near the adrenals, is there any swelling? Thanks for the anatomical illustration!
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    I would keep the ambient temp above 80°F and try not to let the humudity go below 50% my experience with babies and juveniles is they eat all winter long if the temps and humidity are right. I cool my adults in November and keep them in until February.
    I'm not sure what the dark spot is. Could you possibly get a photo of it.

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    It's their natural internal clock telling them it's time to brumate. It's one of the first things to look at after ruling out injury and illness. Babies and juveniles that are not feeding are probably best cooled for a short period maybe 2 months. Steven Bol has just had a article published on his website where he chronicles this issue with baby and juvenile garter snakes. Steven Bol Garter Snakes is the website. He also revisits his research on hibernation/ brumation in garter snakes. The whole publication is dedicated to brumation.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    I think it's actually just her adrenal thingy. I just fed her the main type of slug she was eating that she refused a couple of days ago and she ate it really fast. I have her temp in the 80-85 range in the hot area. There is no swelling or anything but I'm going to watch to make sure. Here is picture from the end of November.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    There is also the fact that a garter that is refusing live food is either already full, injured, ill, or ready to brumate. In the wild they have to brumate regardless of their age. And the weak ones usually don't pull through.
    In captivity, where we control their enviornment, temps, humidity and such therefore its rather unnatural for them. They do adapt however.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Thank you Albert for the useful info on brumation and the way to the study. Although I read that neonates don't go into brumation during winter, but that didn't link a study, I wondered how they'd possibly pull through up here without it. Right now there is freezing rain. It makes sense that they might brumate to escape that weather and winter months. If she stops eating again for an extended period I may try to do what you said but it also makes me nervous to try. Really good info.

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