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    Re: Rush's Thamily!!

    Great looking crew of Thamns! Congrats.
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    Great news, Delilah ate her first unscented pink today. Sniffed it for all of two seconds on some hemos and hit it. So proud of her.

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    I'm starting to wonder if Delilah might be getting a little too fat. I only really say this because of the difference in muscle definition between Joan and Delilah. Joan is a muscle tube while Delilah has a bit of squish to her. Also her back is more rounded where as Joan has a prominent spine ridge. Also Delilah is just as big around as Joan despite being about 4-5" shorter. Their heads are almost the same size though. Kind of odd that Delilah is the one that always wraps tightly on the fingers (almost uncofortably) when I handle her where as Joan doesn't ever hold on to me tightly.

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    Aren't they two different classes of thamnophis? Delilah is checkered and Joan is radix, right? They will always look different bc of the genetic makeup and different muscle ,skeletal, fat reserves in general. It's like comparing oranges and tangelos. Radix is a heavier bodied thamn than marcianus. I think locale plays a factor also.
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    Re: Rush's Thamily!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Aren't they two different classes of thamnophis? Delilah is checkered and Joan is radix, right? They will always look different bc of the genetic makeup and different muscle ,skeletal, fat reserves in general. It's like comparing oranges and tangelos. Radix is a heavier bodied thamn than marcianus. I think locale plays a factor also.

    What do you mean by "classes"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Aren't they two different classes of thamnophis? Delilah is checkered and Joan is radix, right? They will always look different bc of the genetic makeup and different muscle ,skeletal, fat reserves in general. It's like comparing oranges and tangelos. Radix is a heavier bodied thamn than marcianus. I think locale plays a factor also.
    Touche their northern range seems to begin where Radix's southern ends and thus would need to be built differently for the habitat. Just didn't know if all garters had that same basic body structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    What do you mean by "classes"
    Classes being the classification of the subspecies as it refers to individuals. Example, marcianus versus radix and concinnus versus infernalis. The scientific classification is "reptilia". Then genus being the genotype of "thamnophis".
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    Re: Rush's Thamily!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Classes being the classification of the subspecies as it refers to individuals. Example, marcianus versus radix and concinnus versus infernalis. The scientific classification is "reptilia". Then genus being the genotype of "thamnophis".
    Yeah, but what did you mean by "two different classes of Thamnophis" I should have clarified my original question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Yeah, but what did you mean by "two different classes of Thamnophis" I should have clarified my original question.

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    The class of species as it applies to the individual snake. Delilah is a T.S.marcianus and Joan is a T.radix . Both , of course , thamnophis but different in their classification. Not only that, but physical genetic makeup, bodily characteristics, and adaptability to a certain region or locale. Aquatic versus terrestrial. mountainous versus plains, etc.
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    Re: Rush's Thamily!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    The class of species as it applies to the individual snake. Delilah is a T.S.marcianus and Joan is a T.radix . Both , of course , thamnophis but different in their classification. Not only that, but physical genetic makeup, bodily characteristics, and adaptability to a certain region or locale. Aquatic versus terrestrial. mountainous versus plains, etc.

    I understand now. You were using the word "classes" outside the taxonomic design. Thanks.
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