List of checkered morphs?

[guidofatherof5]

A book considered the garter snake bible is "The Garter Snake, Evolution and Ecology" by Rossman, Ford and Seigel. It has all the identifiers (supralabials, sublabials, lateral count along with lateral stripe row locations, etc.)
Be sure to get the second addition. Every time I read it I learn something new. Great reference for species I.D.
The Garter Snakes: Evolution and Ecology (Animal Natural History Series): Douglas A. Rossman, Neil B. Ford, Richard A. Seigel: 9780806128207: Amazon.com: Books

[Albert Clark]

Well crap doesn't look like here genes are going to make it into the greater pool unless there's some legal loophole (nor would any morphs I caught). Did a little more research and found that while I did collect her validly (with a texas hunting license that I do possess), you can not use indigenous wild caught snakes for commercial purposes. I'm guessing this means I could not sell her babies, although I'd imagine giving them away wouldn't be bad? Should I probably call up the game wardens office to clear this up?

Well, I believe the keeping of native species from the wild is a state enforced law also. Unless you are a wildlife rehabilitator, part of a wildlife rescue organization, educational entity such as a veterinary institution or the like. IMO only, I could be wrong.

[Tommytradix]

A book considered the garter snake bible is "The Garter Snake, Evolution and Ecology" by Rossman, Ford and Seigel. It has all the identifiers (supralabials, sublabials, lateral count along with lateral stripe row locations, etc.)
Be sure to get the second addition. Every time I read it I learn something new. Great reference for species I.D.
The Garter Snakes: Evolution and Ecology (Animal Natural History Series): Douglas A. Rossman, Neil B. Ford, Richard A. Seigel: 9780806128207: Amazon.com: Books

thanks steve!! i just ordered the book. i have a genetics book already but didnt know this was out there

[Rushthezeppelin]

From what I can tell the law talks about collecting them. It says if you have a hunting license with a reptile and amphibian stamp then you can collect reptiles and amphibians from the sides of public roadways and public right of ways. I guess this hinges on what the word collect means, but in my mind that means keep. Or do they possibly mean just roundup and then release? It didn't say anything about releasing but I'm lost on this. I hope I don't have to give Delilah up and let her go again but I don't want to run afoul of state law. I've been searching and searching and searching and have found nothing that says outright ownership as pet of a wild native species is banned (unless of course they are protected in some way which checkered garters are not at the state or national level).

[Rushthezeppelin]

Well found something that clears it up well. http://www.jsdragons.com/Keeping%20R...Amphibians.pdf

So it looks like with just a hunting license I can collect (which according to this person at least does mean keep) up to 6 of any species if collected on private land (which Delilah was "collected" on private land and my fishing lure bag was sitting up the embankment in the apartments lawn). With the retile/amphibian stamp I can collect from public right of ways. I cannot breed them for commercial purposes (giving them away wouldn't be commercial) although I can get a Non-Game Dealer permit and I would be within the law. Oddly enough even if I bought two checkered (or any other native Texan garter) from within the pet trade from long lines of captives I would still have to have the Non-Game Dealer permit to breed them commercially (or just plain sell wild caught).

Edit: Also the permit is a very reasonable $63 annually. I think I can manage that if I get serious enough with this to do more than maybe donate some babies.

[Albert Clark]

Well, I know the laws vary from state to state also ,and that what I encountered recently was the Dept. of fish and game in the state of Pennsylvania.

[Tommytradix]

Well found something that clears it up well. http://www.jsdragons.com/Keeping%20R...Amphibians.pdf

So it looks like with just a hunting license I can collect (which according to this person at least does mean keep) up to 6 of any species if collected on private land (which Delilah was "collected" on private land and my fishing lure bag was sitting up the embankment in the apartments lawn). With the retile/amphibian stamp I can collect from public right of ways. I cannot breed them for commercial purposes (giving them away wouldn't be commercial) although I can get a Non-Game Dealer permit and I would be within the law. Oddly enough even if I bought two checkered (or any other native Texan garter) from within the pet trade from long lines of captives I would still have to have the Non-Game Dealer permit to breed them commercially (or just plain sell wild caught).

Edit: Also the permit is a very reasonable $63 annually. I think I can manage that if I get serious enough with this to do more than maybe donate some babies.

$63 per animal?

[Rushthezeppelin]

$63 per animal?

I think it's just a $63 annual permit, unlimited sales I think. Also I'm now 100% I'm well within the law http://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/p...tions_faqs.pdf says I can even have (and it uses the word possess) stuff on the blacklist just can't do anything commercial with them. Figure: 31 TAC §65.331(d) as you can see here T. Marcianus Marcianus is on the whitelist of those I can have for commercial purposes for the permit fee.

Edit: http://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/p...e_wildlife.pdf Looks like it's a one time permit fee actually. After that there are fairly strict record keeping requirements and annual reporting.

Also looks like Radix and Sirtalis are on the blacklist. So if I ever get into breeding I'm going to focus mostly on checkereds I suppose ^_^

[BUSHSNAKE]

kinda narrow morph list if your into checkereds lol they need to find the erythristic checkered and anerythristic!!

in order for something to be anery it has to be red or have red pigment...axanthic maybe but not anery

[Tommytradix]

in order for something to be anery it has to be red or have red pigment...axanthic maybe but not anery

what does that have to do with finding a new morph?