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    Re: Odd regurge...

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUESIRTALIS View Post
    It could very well be parasites then or a blockage of some sort. Do you feel any lumps in his body at all?
    I don't feel any lumps. If it was a blockage I would have expected a change in behavior, or lethargy, or something by now (closing in on a month since this started). My number one suspicion is parasites, I just don't know where he could have gotten them from...

    If he takes food tonight, I'll feed only one mouse or nightcrawler cut into pieces. If he regurges that, then I think that will pretty definitively point to something other than just eating too much while his system was still recovering from that first regurge.
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    Re: Odd regurge...

    No luck with getting him to eat tonight. I'll try again in a few days.
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    Re: Odd regurge...

    Maybe it's better that he doesn't eat and has time to give his digestive tract a rest. Maybe just make sure he gets hydrated, if not by drinking ,then by soaking. Soaking in a tepid 50 / 50 mix of pedialite and h2O?
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    Re: Odd regurge...

    I imagine if he drinks some of the pedialyte mixture it might give him a boost. I may give that a shot over the next few days (I'm familiar with doing pedialyte soaks for frogs, so kind of the same drill). So far no signs of dehydration. Half the time when I'm checking on him, I'll offer him water on his way back in the tank and he'll drink sitting on my hand.
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    Re: Odd regurge...

    Well, that's cool. As long as you are sure he's getting fluids.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    Re: Odd regurge...

    Got some pedialyte, going to try that tonight. Yeah, I was checking on him earlier and he took a nice long drink as I put him back in. He's also been way more active today; I think he got over wondering where his buddy disappeared to.
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    Re: Odd regurge...

    He just took a nightcrawler. Now to wait and see if he keeps it down. Hopefully I've have some poo to get tested in a couple days and not another regurge.
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    Re: Odd regurge...

    Okay, so I just checked in his tank and found a glob of what I'm 95% sure is mucous. It was the color of healthy mucous (so not green) and I didn't see any traces of blood when I wiped it up with a paper towel to examine it closer. There were no traces of poo or urates, so I'm assuming it came out of his mouth. When I checked on him he was alert and tongue-flicking.

    HOWEVER, I saw absolutely no evidence of regurgitated food. I'm still holding out hope that he'll keep this worm down so I can get a fecal done.

    Also, I know an RI is the first thing you think about in regards to mucous, but I'm 100% sure he does not have an RI. He has none of the symptoms of one.

    Do you guys think it's possible that mucous has been building up in his system since he's started regurgitating and that's what I'm seeing here? I know it can sometimes build up in the stomach, especially when it's trying to recover from something traumatic, and I think two consecutive regurges would fit the bill for that.
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    Re: Odd regurge...

    UPDATE: I got paranoid and went back to check the area around the mucous more thoroughly, and found a couple chunks of pretty solid material in it that didn't immediately come up when I wiped it the first time. It wasn't bloody, and it definitely wasn't part of the worm from earlier; far too solid to be that.
    Also, I offered him water and he took a nice long drink, so he's staying hydrated.

    Do you think it's possible that there's been a blockage in the stomach this whole time that is small enough to let water and small amounts of food through, but not normal meals? That would explain the partial regurgitations instead of entire meals. I'd expect an intestinal blockage to cause infection and lethargy pretty quickly since it traps digested food inside the body, but one in the stomach could just cause regurges and not lead to infection.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the worm stays down and that whatever that solid lump was, it was the source of the problem.
    Lora

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    Re: Odd regurge...

    I think I have my fecal sample! I checked him first thing this morning an saw what I thought was probably the regurgitated worm, however there were absolutely no chunks in it whatsoever and when I wiped it onto a towel to get a better look, I saw urates mixed in with it, so I'm pretty sure it's poop. Since those previous regurges were only part of the meal, I think the worm may have just kicked his system into gear again. Sample is currently bagged in my refrigerator in a moist towel waiting for the vet to reopen on Monday.

    It was definitely not healthy poop, as it was really watery and not solid at all, but hopefully now I can figure out what's going on.
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    3.0 T. sirtalis sirtalis, 1.1 T. cyrtopsis ocellatus, 1.0 L. caerulea, 0.1 C. cranwelli, 0.1 T. carolina, 0.1 P. regius, 0.1 G. rosea, 0.0.1 B. smithi, 0.1 H. carolinensis

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