Witch species it is ?

[rami59]

Hello,

Can you say me witch species it is exactly only with this pictures ?

thamnophis1.jpgthamnophis2.jpg

[slipknot711]

This looks like a ribbon snake to me (im using my phone so picture is a bit small)

[SnakeSavvy]

It's definitely either garter or ribbon closest I could find right now is the common/eastern garter Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis. It's a good looking snake though

[rami59]

This picture is better i think
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[Spankenstyne]

Eastern Ribbon imo.

[rami59]

The store tell me it s a thamnophis proximus diabolicus. How to be sure of that ?

[slipknot711]

rami that would make it a western ribbon snake. you could google more info

[rami59]

OK but i m looking to be sure of the specie. Is it a way to do that? anybody else has got a th. Proximus diabolicus?

[BLUESIRTALIS]

it's either T proximus diabolicus or T sauritus sackenii. Nice looking snake!

The store tell me it s a thamnophis proximus diabolicus. How to be sure of that ?

[rami59]

Yes ') But witch one ? That s not easy to find a response.
There is a description un the link below
Somebody can help me to find the best way to compare these 2 species? (Th. Proximus diabolicus vs Th. Sauritus sackenii) cause i don t understand every english word and translate by Google is not the best.
Western ribbon snake photo - Thamnophis proximus - G115107 | ARKive

Sorry to disturb