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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    What is the little bump on it's back? Is it a water drop, poop, or is it an actual bump of some sort?
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    Wow. I had one kid crawling on me, dinner on the stove and hadn't slept the previous night. My reply to the "colubrid" statement was uncalled for.
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

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    Wow. I had one kid crawling on me, dinner on the stove and hadn't slept the previous night. My reply to the "colubrid" statement was uncalled for.

    May I suggest you post this to that thread. We all can have a bad day.

    http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gart...tml#post256560
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    Quote Originally Posted by Muslim1 View Post
    Wow. I had one kid crawling on me, dinner on the stove and hadn't slept the previous night. My reply to the "colubrid" statement was uncalled for.
    No problem. Everything is good.
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

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    CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? LOL! I HAVE HEARD THIS SUBJECT BROUGHT UP MANY TIMES, BUT NOT JUST COBRAS ALL VENOMOUS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I FOUND IN CLOSE PROXIMTY TO THIS SUBJECT.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...68911936,d.b2k
    Thanks for the link. No real facts or proof, and when the author starts off like this, "
    The venom apparatus of poisonous snakes consists of a fang and associated venom gland (or

    glands). ".
    I question his knowledge calling a venomous snake poisonous.

    Not trying to start any kind of argument. Just pointing out a fact.
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    Water.
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    I agree, i thought the same thing and wasn't saying these were facts i just googled did cobras evolve from colubrids and this is all i could find. I have been working with herps for over 20 years and know that poison dart frogs are poisonous and cobras are venomous, lol! I will say this back around 20 years ago alot of people called venomous snakes poisonous and some still do.this was just the only thing i could find that stated that venomous snakes evolved from colubrids so i thought i would share so you could see why some people might think this.
    Quote Originally Posted by ssssnakes View Post
    thanks for the link. No real facts or proof, and when the author starts off like this, "
    the venom apparatus of poisonous snakes consists of a fang and associated venom gland (or

    glands). ".
    I question his knowledge calling a venomous snake poisonous.

    Not trying to start any kind of argument. Just pointing out a fact.
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUESIRTALIS View Post
    I agree, i thought the same thing and wasn't saying these were facts i just googled did cobras evolve from colubrids and this is all i could find. I have been working with herps for over 20 years and know that poison dart frogs are poisonous and cobras are venomous, lol! I will say this back around 20 years ago alot of people called venomous snakes poisonous and some still do.this was just the only thing i could find that stated that venomous snakes evolved from colubrids so i thought i would share so you could see why some people might think this.

    Very good point Shawn and the fact the author Kenneth V. Kardong has many peer reviewed papers/books published.



    Washington State University - Kenneth Kardong

    Amazon.com: Kenneth V. Kardong: Books

    An Introduction to Biological Evolution: 9780073050775: Science & Mathematics Books @ Amazon.com
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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    There is even a few books called Poisonous Snakes.


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    Re: My venomous Garter... total resemblance!

    Thanks! I thought it was just a water drop, but it was hard to tell.
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    water.
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