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    "Fourth shed In Progress" slipknot711's Avatar
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    can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    i ask this dumb question because i see online the granites are sometimes called granite checkereds. and if they can breed what would the possible outcomes be?
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    Granite is just a morph of T. marcianus - Checkered Garter. I'll let someone with experience in breeding these breakdown the breeding outcomes.
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    i figured. BUT i had to ask. TY. Hows tank?
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    Quote Originally Posted by slipknot711 View Post
    i figured. BUT i had to ask. TY. Hows tank?

    Hungry and impatient.
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    lol a grumpy old man it sounds like
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    Quote Originally Posted by slipknot711 View Post
    lol a grumpy old man it sounds like
    Not in the least. Grumpy is not part of his character.
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    Ashley,
    Like Steve said granite is a morph of the checkered garter. It is a simple recessive mutation, so requires two copies of the gene for the phenotype (granite look) to be expressed. Het granite to het granite breeding with yield approximately 1/4 of babies being granites. Granites are one of the most unique and beautiful pattern mutations in my opinion. There is also a similar mutation in the eastern garters that Scott Felzer is working with called the golden morph. It has a golden yellow hue but also has a granite pattern. I acquired a pair of them this year from Scott in trade and look forward to working them in combination with other eastern morphs. Hope this answers what you wanted.
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    ty so much it helped. i saw a picture of the golden morph. beautiful
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    Re: can you breed a checkered to a granite?

    Agreed! The Goldens are awesome looking animals! I can't wait to see what some of the Golden combo morphs will look like!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    Ashley,
    Like Steve said granite is a morph of the checkered garter. It is a simple recessive mutation, so requires two copies of the gene for the phenotype (granite look) to be expressed. Het granite to het granite breeding with yield approximately 1/4 of babies being granites. Granites are one of the most unique and beautiful pattern mutations in my opinion. There is also a similar mutation in the eastern garters that Scott Felzer is working with called the golden morph. It has a golden yellow hue but also has a granite pattern. I acquired a pair of them this year from Scott in trade and look forward to working them in combination with other eastern morphs. Hope this answers what you wanted.
    Jeff
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