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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    There's one species of snake (Brahminy Blind Snake) that reproduces only through parthenogenesis. Every individual of the species is female and genetically identical to one another.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I just had a girl take a week to pass them. No biggie except one got stuck and is still there a month later. Now she's gone off food and will probably die of septicemia.
    That sucks We have another appointment with the exotics vet for Friday if she hasn't passed the rest of them by then. I doubt we'll have to go to that one though, as she's still making progress passing them and only seems to have a couple left.
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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    Well that's good. No need to worry too much unless progress stops, she goes off food, and there's still something in there a week or two later.

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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Lots of reptiles and amphibians do it. ( I think with amphibians they can actually change their sex spontaneously) Even boa constrictors can have partho litters. There's one species of lizard (whiptail) I used to find in bakersfield, CA for which males do not even exist. They're all female and reproduce by parthenogenesis.


    Can you give me the particular species? and any links to that as I can't find anything about this all female group of Whiptails in CA. Thanks.
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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    Note that the populations in Bakersfield aren't necessarily just pure NM whiptails but there are several very similar species and/or all-female hybrid populations as well as some that reproduce sexually. Anytime I encountered whiptails in Bakersfield, no males were spotted. Just females, and yet in the spring they were very gravid. That's at a time of year when any other lizard species there can be observed engaged in mating activity. No such activity with the whiptails. They were already gravid!

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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    Quote Originally Posted by d_virginiana View Post
    The vet said that with slugs it isn't too strange to have them spread out over a span of a day or two, so I feel better now... I figured since I've never dealt with this before it'd be better to get help too soon than accidentally wait too late.
    The female radix that I got last year threw slugs over a period lasting at least 6-8 weeks. And this year she's thrown a couple of odd slugs that were a couple of weeks apart.
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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-uk View Post
    The female radix that I got last year threw slugs over a period lasting at least 6-8 weeks. And this year she's thrown a couple of odd slugs that were a couple of weeks apart.
    The first one Harley had was about two weeks ago, but I actually thought that was going to be it. This time it's been several days, and she's been regularly passing clear fluid and the occasional slug the whole time. Her vet appointment is tomorrow... The vet recommended I bring her back in by Friday if she still hadn't passed the remaining two.
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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    I was just curious about the slug production. I had a thread earlier talking about not breeding an older female. This makes me wonder if not breeding could present it's own problems.

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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    Quote Originally Posted by EKS56 View Post
    I was just curious about the slug production. I had a thread earlier talking about not breeding an older female. This makes me wonder if not breeding could present it's own problems.
    Breeding or not it carries its own set of risks. I do think they were born to produce as many young in their lifetime as possible.
    I think it is more natural for garters to be gravid every year then not.

    I've held females back from breeding once in awhile thinking they need a break but I really don't know if I'm doing them a favor or not.
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    Re: Difficulty passing slugs; When do I go to a vet?

    I know it sounds selfish but I really enjoyed having my two Blacknecks in the same cage. I think they liked it too. I may put them back together again.

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