Identifying possible ribbon or garter

[phillycyclocross]

Hi, new here. I had a quick question. This past weekend I was out at the inlaws turning over rocks looking to see what I might find. I came across a tarp the inlaws had laying over old recycling bins and inside was at least a half dozen garters. I was able to grab most of them but the one that got away has me bothered the most. I didn't get a picture. It all happened so fast but this one was a little larger than most of the garters that were in there and it has two bold orange stripes going down its back. I'm guessing some type of ribbon but I googled the description and couldn't find anything. I was hoping some one here has possibly seen something like that. I seem to remember seeing that pattern before as a kid but in yellow but I could be wrong. Any help is appreciated and again sorry about not having a pic. Next time!

Thanks!

[guidofatherof5]

Two orange dorsal stripes doesn't sound like any garter I'm familiar with. Where (State, county) did you see it in?

[phillycyclocross]

I found them in South East Pennsylvania.

[the_edsta]

Def aren't a lot of snakes with two orange stripes... but a light colored ribbon snake viewed from one side could have that appearance...

ribbon4_bob.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Def aren't a lot of snakes with two orange stripes... but a light colored ribbon snake viewed from one side could have that appearance...

ribbon4_bob.jpg

Great idea.

[guidofatherof5]

Check these out for a possible ID.

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Shorthead Garter Snake

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Ribbon Snakes

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Eastern Garter Snake

[phillycyclocross]

I suppose that is a possibility but I watched this little bugger slide underneath one of the other snakes and up over the lip of the recycling container and it was gone. I just keep replaying it over and over and I see two very close bright orange stripes going down its back. I will keep going back to that area and hopefully I can catch it next time. Bugs me I can't figure out what it was though.

[ConcinusMan]

Not too many possibilities. Eastern garter, ribbon, red bellied (very small) or northern brown snake (dakayi). I'm still thinking that the 2 stripes was an illusion / misperception. The latter 2 are very small but have a wide stripe that sometimes looks like 2 parallel stripes.

[guidofatherof5]

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Snakes

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Northern Brown Snake

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Northern Redbelly Snake

[phillycyclocross]

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Snakes

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Northern Brown Snake

PA HERP IDENTIFICATION » Northern Redbelly Snake

Thanks for the info.