ok i'm working on the page and have got a start on it but i need some permission from people for photos. so anyone that is willing to let me use your photos from here or any other websites you may use would you please post your sites. there are lots of old photos that i have just copied & pasted but i would like permission to use on the wiki. thanks for reading and here is a link to what's done so far http://thamnophis.wikispaces.com/