I.D this garter?

[Charis]

Someone on another forum came across this garter and wanted to know what kind of snake it was. Can you guys tell us the species?
Not my picture.


Thanks!

[Stefan-A]

T. elegans vagrans, but knowing the location would be nice.

[Charis]

T. elegans vagrans, but knowing the location would be nice.

Wanted to see what people thought before knowing the area. This one was seen in Alberta Canada.

[Stefan-A]

Wanted to see what people thought before knowing the area. This one was seen in Alberta Canada.

Yeah, that narrows it down a bit. As I recall, they only have T. elegans vagrans and T. sirtalis parietalis there.

Edit: And T. radix, apparently.

[guidofatherof5]

T. elegans vagrans is my first impression.

[Steveo]

Definitely T.e. vagrans. Nice looking one.

[jwolfe152]

ok how do you guys id snakes, from the picture i think it looks like thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis except the line on its back is a little wider and the color is more brown, but i thought colors varied like that, looks very similar. i know its from canada, and location can make a big difference on trying to id