Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

[Steveo]

the melanistics dont have reds, oranges or yellows so when the albino takes away that dark pigment your left with nothing.

It was explained to me that melanism just overproduces melanin, covering the other pigments. My understanding was that was melanistic is + black while anery is - reds so that anery + albino = snow

I'm trying to remember where I read that.

[BUSHSNAKE]

It was explained to me that melanism just overproduces melanin, covering the other pigments. My understanding was that was melanistic is + black while anery is - reds so that anery + albino = snow

I'm trying to remember where I read that.

if an albino is white and yellow LIKE A BALL PYTHON then you cross an albino with axanthic to create a snow.
if an albino is white and red LIKE A CORN SNAKE then you want to cross an albino with anerythristic to create a snow.
You can also cross an albino to a melanistic, that takes away the black pigment from the melanistic to create a snow. I believe all snow garters were created this way.

[Jeff B]

if an albino is white and yellow LIKE A BALL PYTHON then you cross an albino with axanthic to create a snow.
if an albino is white and red LIKE A CORN SNAKE then you want to cross an albino with anerythristic to create a snow.
You can also cross an albino to a melanistic, that takes away the black pigment from the melanistic to create a snow. I believe all snow garters were created this way.

You just illustrated my points exactly as to how the T.radix works beautifully in your first two examples, thank you, but your last point just falls apart. You can't make a true snow with a melanistic. The Schuett "snow" is the biggest misnomer in snake history. Its not a snow. It doesn't even really look like a snow, especially when adult. It is a melanistic albino combo....nothing more nothing less....it is not pigmentless. It has pigment, it's just the two genes fighting with each other to produce a solid light purplish/brownish snake.
I think the Schuett melanistic albino has really confused you into thinking that's how it "works" in garters, but it doesn't really translate to the plains and red-sideds snow very well. Anyway, I gotta go call up a republican now and convince him that global warming exists. Peace

[BUSHSNAKE]

You just illustrated my points exactly as to how the T.radix works beautifully in your first two examples, thank you, but your last point just falls apart. You can't make a true snow with a melanistic. The Schuett "snow" is the biggest misnomer in snake history. Its not a snow. It doesn't even really look like a snow, especially when adult. It is a melanistic albino combo....nothing more nothing less....it is not pigmentless. It has pigment, it's just the two genes fighting with each other to produce a solid light purplish/brownish snake.
I think the Schuett melanistic albino has really confused you into thinking that's how it "works" in garters, but it doesn't really translate to the plains and red-sideds snow very well. Anyway, I gotta go call up a republican now and convince him that global warming exists. Peace

we can go back and forth until you realize im right Peace out

[Jeff B]

we can go back and forth until you realize im right Peace out

Funny, that is how this conversation always ends, you are right and the whole world is all wrong....and actually the whole world is all wrong these days and that I can't argue with.