Garters and their love of water.

[Selkielass]

How big are the snakes?
T. Butlerii from my area only get about 20 inches long, and slimmer than my ring finger.
Two live happily in a med cube exo-terra with a bioactive substrate, but their water dish is cerial bowl sized. (Less than 1/4 total floor space. The isopods are very good at cleaning up waste with little help from me, and the snakes spend lorlts of time up sunning in their extensive branch and reed penthouse.

One big eastern or checkered might be too much for this setup, and my checkered wouldn't do well with the moist substrate.

Id like to take an entertainment center, or a 50-100 gallon enclosure and set it up with a very good small hand basin from therecycling center plumbed thru the floor so the water could be drained and cleaned into a bucket beneath.

Mi herp zoo has many of their large reptile enclosure set up with what are essentially naturalistic looking bathtubs, so they can easily be emptied, cleaned and refilled. I like the idea.
I guess I don't know enough about turtle filtration systems to trust them to keep the water really fresh and potable. It may look clean, but im not sure about purity. I don't want a parasite reservoir lurking in my filtration.

[guidofatherof5]

Wasn't there someone on here a couple years ago with a half aquatic half terrestrial setup? It kind of looked like they had a tupperware bin with a lot of water attached to the main tank with a pvc pipe so the snakes could crawl from land to water whenever, but it was detachable and plastic so it could be cleaned/refilled more easily...
Looked doable, but more trouble and time than I'd have for it.

Here you go. Thank you Stefan for finding the thread. Starts at post #34.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/encl...closure-4.html

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I've always been under the impression that the more water the better.

These N.tessellata probably agree with that statement

[Ruth]

Here you go. Thank you Stefan for finding the thread. Starts at post #34.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/encl...closure-4.html

Thanks for that. I did wonder if you could build a glass enclosure with a partition wall so that so part of the enclosure could hold water with a access hole so it would be like two enclosures. The plastic tubs are lovely and I'm sure great to clean but they're not so easy on the eye

[Ruth]

How big are the snakes?

T. Butlerii from my area only get about 20 inches long, and slimmer than my ring finger.
Two live happily in a med cube exo-terra with a bioactive substrate, but their water dish is cerial bowl sized. (Less than 1/4 total floor space. The isopods are very good at cleaning up waste with little help from me, and the snakes spend lorlts of time up sunning in their extensive branch and reed penthouse.

One big eastern or checkered might be too much for this setup, and my checkered wouldn't do well with the moist substrate.

Id like to take an entertainment center, or a 50-100 gallon enclosure and set it up with a very good small hand basin from therecycling center plumbed thru the floor so the water could be drained and cleaned into a bucket beneath.

Mi herp zoo has many of their large reptile enclosure set up with what are essentially naturalistic looking bathtubs, so they can easily be emptied, cleaned and refilled. I like the idea.
I guess I don't know enough about turtle filtration systems to trust them to keep the water really fresh and potable. It may look clean, but im not sure about purity. I don't want a parasite reservoir lurking in my filtration.

My current snakes are only little and have lots of growing to do. I would imagine though as they are so active they would appreciate room. They certainly seem different to my corns in that respect and I really can see them being happy exploring.

[Ruth]

These N.tessellata probably agree with that statement

Wow now I'm really wanting to give it a go. I will have to get a pencil a paper and put down some ideas and pick all your brains

[-MARWOLAETH-]

obscurus' natural habitat

[Ruth]

Thanks for that

[guidofatherof5]

Great video. Love seeing them(snakes) in the wild.