No one seems to get angry, it just seems that the thiaminase thing is almost political. I think it's where it hasn't ever been proven in snakes or something, idk.

But like you mentioned there's no way to tell whether the snake is seizing or not without observation... I know it would be hard to get but a video of the snake's behavior would be great. Even if he's not 'seizing' or doing anything crazy, just a video of him crawling around, or maybe wrapping around your hand would give people a much better idea of whether or not he's having neurological difficulties.


Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
Now, what was described just doesn't sound like a neurological problem at all. No tremors? No vibrating? No problems moving around? Just sudden rolling and mouth open, etc. All I know is that I've see snakes act like that when it couldn't possibly be thiaminase, more times than I can count.
I thought the owner said the snake was 'flipping' and lying on its back, and seemed to have trouble maintaining balance while crawling, as well as moving erratically/slowly? Maybe I misread that... That's what made me think 'neuro'.
But yeah, 'death rolling' and mouth gaping don't mean neuro issues, so much as they mean 'unhappy snake'. I've had perfectly healthy wild water snakes death roll and mouth gape at me just because they were scared. Definitely not disagreeing with you there!