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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Alewife (Alosa pseudoharengus) Anchovies (Anchoa hepsetus) Anchovies (Engraulis mordax) Bass (white) (Lepibema chrysops) Black quahog (Artica islandica) Bowfin (dogfish) (Amia calva) Bream (Abramis brama) Buckeye shiner (Notropus atherionoides) Buffalofish (Ictiobus cyprinellus) Bull Head (Ameirurus m. melas) Burbot (Lota lota maculosa) Burbot (Lota lota) Butterfish (Poronotus triacanthus) Carp (Cyprinus carpio) Catfish (channel) (Ictalurus laccustris punctatus) Clams (chowder, steamer, cherrystone) Fathead minnow (Primephales p. promelas) Garfish (garpike) Goldfish (Carassius auratus) Herring (Baltic) (Clupea harengus var. membranus) Herring (Clupea harengus) Lamprey (adult) (Petromyzon marintus) Mackerel (Scomber japonicas) (Pacific) Menhaden (Brecoortia tyrannus) Menhaden (large scale) (Brecoortia patronus) Moray ell (Gymnothorax ocellatus) Mussel (bigtoe) (Pluerobema cordatum) Razor belly (scaled sardine) (Harengula pensacolae) Sauger (Stizostedion c. canadense) Scallop (Placopecten grandis) Sculpin (Myooxocephalus quadricornis thompsonii) Shad (gizzard) (Dorosoma cepedianum) Shiner (spottail) (Notropis hudsonius) Smelt (freshwater) (Osmerus mordax) Stoneroller (central) (Campostoma anomalum pullum) Sucker (common white) (Catostomus c. commersonii) White bass (Lepimbema chrysops) Whitefish (Prosopium cylindraceum quadriaterale) White fish (Coregonus clupeaformis

    If it is any of the fish listed above, then YES it is bad to feed these on a regular basis. Feeding them once or twice is fine, but not as a staple diet.
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    This male is super shy and jumpy. When I was there he seemed to be more relaxed when the female was in the tank. If there's a way you could put her feeding container up beside the tank and let him see her eat, that might be worth a try too. My baby is by far the shyest of mine, and he will come out and start begging if he sees Houdini eating.

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    If it is any of the fish listed above, then YES it is bad to feed these on a regular basis. Feeding them once or twice is fine, but not as a staple diet.
    No one knows what species those fish were, probably not even the guy selling them If I had to guess, I would say they were a safe species since the garter he's talking about is my Houdini who is a very healthy 12 years old right now (he's blind, but because of cataracts), and ate them almost exclusively for the first 10 of those years until I found this forum and realized it was a no-no.
    Since frozen silversides haven't been tried yet, it would be better to try those before going to these minnows.
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Throw him in a deli cup with a live fish and a jolting but of water. Vacate the room and leave him for as long as you can. He will eat this unless there is an underlying issue or other reason. Often times, the more skittish snakes are intimidated by our presence. My female scotti feeds in this manner and won't even touch the food if she can see me.
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by thamneil View Post
    Throw him in a deli cup with a live fish and a jolting but of water. Vacate the room and leave him for as long as you can. He will eat this unless there is an underlying issue or other reason. Often times, the more skittish snakes are intimidated by our presence. My female scotti feeds in this manner and won't even touch the food if she can see me.
    That's one heck of a deli cup, more like a deli bucket. These are adult T. c. cyrtopsis (Western blackneck garter snake)

    http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...ed-shed-2.html Post #17
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    That's one heck of a deli cup, more like a deli bucket. These are adult T. c. cyrtopsis (Western blackneck garter snake)

    http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...ed-shed-2.html Post #17
    I don't think we've seen a picture of the male yet, have we? A deli cup would still be too small lol. But I'm curious, what it the average adult size for blackneck males? This one is so tiny compared to my male eastern!
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by d_virginiana View Post
    I don't think we've seen a picture of the male yet, have we? A deli cup would still be too small lol. But I'm curious, what it the average adult size for blackneck males? This one is so tiny compared to my male eastern!

    http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...ed-shed-2.html Post #17
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Those were both the female I'm pretty sure?
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    In post 17 he says he bought a male and a female.
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Yeah, but both of those pics were the female lol, I was the one holding her for them.
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    Re: Just not hungry?

    Then I guess I've never seen the size of the male. Sorry, I was wrong.
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