Pied Garters.. Has anyone seen this?

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

that is what happened with amel redsided garter snakes. They went from being like $350 to under 100 in a VERY short time frame...

[Greg'sGarters]

How about if everyone buys them and people who are breeding them start to lower their prices to compete with each other. When Spider Ball Pythons came out, they were $18,000 each. Now they are $500 each AT MOST.

[Greg'sGarters]

I don't know if he actually did or even claimed he did, but if you look at his website it seems like he did. You can bet they're going to be expensive. Personally, they don't really even appeal to me. I hardly think a normal snake with a few white spots on it is all that thrilling. To each his own I guess. Now, if it was mostly white with a few normal spots, that would be awesome.

Someone should do that! They can call it a reverse piebald! Or a super piebald. I like reverse piebald better.

[ConcinusMan]

And in spite of all the "oooh's and aaah's" from people, a year ago I couldn't sell a blue concinnus for $50. This year they were "flying off the shelf" at $100. Some things you just can't figure. Just because a morph is new, doesn't mean the price won't go up or at least stay the same.

Anyway, the amel red sides for sale a while down the road, are probably not really worth as much as the early ones anyway, for the simple fact that they are likely inbred for more generations. The price not only dropped fast, but inbreeding issues popped up fast too. If the price of these piebalds remains that damn high, I give it maybe 5 years and we'll be looking at bug eyes and neurological issues.

[Greg'sGarters]

And in spite of all the "oooh's and aaah's" from people, a year ago I couldn't sell a blue concinnus for $50. This year they were "flying off the shelf" at $100. Some things you just can't figure. Just because a morph is new, doesn't mean the price won't go up or at least stay the same.

$100?!?!?! I was willing to pay like $175 for a baby! ***Cough cough***I mean I think $50 sounds like a good price if it's a breeder.

[ConcinusMan]

I think most of the CB babies showing signs of the trait went for $40-$50 this year. Normal looking ones went for less. In retrospect I could have gotten more, but I wanted to unload them fast. It's a lot of work feeding 90 babies.

$100?!?!?! I was willing to pay like $175 for a baby!

Well in that case I'll be a nice guy and let you have one for $160 next season. But don't tell anyone. Everyone else will have to pay regular price.

I honestly don't know why Scott didn't jump right on these early on when I offered a trade. I was even willing to see that he had the only breeding adults besides my own. He would have made a handsome profit by now. But for some reason, he's got a problem with concinnus' and won't work with them.

Just my opinion, but I'd much rather have a stunning blue concinnus then that ugly piebald.

[Greg'sGarters]

I think most of the CB babies showing signs of the trait went for $40-$50 this year. Normal looking ones went for less. In retrospect I could have gotten more, but I wanted to unload them fast. It's a lot of work feeding 90 babies.



Well in that case I'll be a nice guy and let you have one for $160 next season. But don't tell anyone. Everyone else will have to pay regular price.

I honestly don't know why Scott didn't jump right on these early on when I offered a trade. I was even willing to see that he had the only breeding adults besides my own. He would have made a handsome profit by now. But for some reason, he's got a problem with concinnus' and won't work with them.

Weird, because usually anything cool and new Scott jumps right on. And the fact that it's a trade would just sweeten the deal! How much will you be selling them for next year though? $100 for babies?

[ConcinusMan]

Don't know. Just like Scott, price will be set after all the litters are born. Will be adjusted up or down accordingly with supply and demand and depending on how fast I want to sell them. But seriously, I don't think they'll go as high as $100 for babies because of the simple fact that they aren't born blue, and inheritance of the trait varies. People want super blue ones and I would only charge that much if they're obviously very blue. The babies are a gamble. They might, or might not turn out very blue. But anyway, we got way off topic.

I seriously think that $1000 is too damn much. I mean, if they looked as cool as the pied ball pythons that would be one thing, but a few small white spots just doesn't cut it for me. But, if he can sell 'em for that, more power to him.

[Greg'sGarters]

I would like one if they had an original pattern where it wasn't white. Where it isn't white, the pattern looks blended if you know what I mean.

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[ConcinusMan]

I completely forgot about that one. Yeah, that one's pretty cool, but this is what I was looking at on his website. Not sure how the available babies are going to look but I don't really like this one at all. I don't know if the babies will be descended from that one above, or the one here: