Morph Identification?

[Greg'sGarters]

Ok, so I currently have a male that I caught myself up in PA. He is an Eastern (Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis). But he is MUCH more red than any other garter I've caught. I think he is a certain morph. What morph is he, or is he just a really colorful normal?Here is a picture of him...

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[snake man]

Could be a red radix?

[Greg'sGarters]

Could be a red radix?

Radix aren't found in Pennsylvania.

[ConcinusMan]

It's a normal eastern. Color and pattern varies naturally. Sometimes in the same population, and they definitely vary geographically.

[Greg'sGarters]

It's a normal eastern. Color and pattern varies naturally. Sometimes in the same population, and they definitely vary geographically.

Very true! I've found garters that were pink before! lol

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I've seen them. That morph comes in green too.

[Greg'sGarters]

The morph or the pattern?

[ConcinusMan]

Ones just like the pink ones, but green instead.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

That is a very typical garter snake for our state... I know of a location in PA where they are stripeless and actually red.... some are borderline what many would call erythristic! They also have bright salmon or pink colored bellies! Also there are females there that are literally the same size as the large adult female water snakes. HUGE! Thick as my wrist and almost 4 feet! I also have a different location where I turn up extremely pale olive green stripeless ones with maroon spots. And of course I turned up a flame once in that spot. Obviously I do not reveal those locations because I do not really collect wild specimens here anymore and I love to visit them... and it's really cool to find the same snake two or three years in a row!

[ConcinusMan]

I know of a location in PA where they are stripeless and actually red.... some are borderline what many would call erythristic! I also have a different location where I turn up extremely pale olive green stripeless ones with maroon spots.

And you haven't gotten any of these for me because...?

I do not really collect wild specimens here anymore

D'OH!