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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Think of it like this, 2 brown eyed people have a brown eyed child. That child would be brown eyed. 2 people with blue eyes had a blue eyed child. That child would be blue eyed. 2 people, one with brown eyes, one with blue eyes have a brown eyed kid. That kid would be brown eyed het for blue eyed. Hope this helps!
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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Brown eyes = dominant (only takes one parent to have brown eyes)
    Blue or green eyes = recessive. (like albino is recessive) Takes both parents to contribute the gene in order for the child to show the trait. (homozygous) Both parents don't have to have blue or green eyes as long as they carry the gene (het for it) and pass it to the child.

    I have hazel eyes (which are defined as blue, green, blue-green, or gray, with brown specks) are the result of two codominant genes which are both expressed at the same time. The interesting thing is that, at times my eyes appear very blue. Other times, they appear more like olive-green. They actually change color, but the brown specks always remain.

    A good example of this type of color in snakes, are the "super" forms of some morphs. The "super" form for a codominant gene is expressed when the snake inherited the codominant gene from both parents. But even "hets" which only inherited the gene from one parent, still display the trait. Sometimes they are called "visual hets".

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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Hey richard, i think the brown specks mean that you're full of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by concinnusman View Post
    brown eyes = dominant (only takes one parent to have brown eyes)
    blue or green eyes = recessive. (like albino is recessive) takes both parents to contribute the gene in order for the child to show the trait. (homozygous) both parents don't have to have blue or green eyes as long as they carry the gene (het for it) and pass it to the child.

    I have hazel eyes (which are defined as blue, green, blue-green, or gray, with brown specks) are the result of two codominant genes which are both expressed at the same time. The interesting thing is that, at times my eyes appear very blue. Other times, they appear more like olive-green. They actually change color, but the brown specks always remain.

    A good example of this type of color in snakes, are the "super" forms of some morphs. The "super" form for a codominant gene is expressed when the snake inherited the codominant gene from both parents. But even "hets" which only inherited the gene from one parent, still display the trait. Sometimes they are called "visual hets".
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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUESIRTALIS View Post
    Hey richard, i think the brown specks mean that you're full of it.
    No, that's splatter. Just means I've seen a lot of **** and have been putting up with a lot of it over the years. You're bound to get splatter marks.

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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Brown eyes = dominant (only takes one parent to have brown eyes)
    Blue or green eyes = recessive. (like albino is recessive) Takes both parents to contribute the gene in order for the child to show the trait. (homozygous) Both parents don't have to have blue or green eyes as long as they carry the gene (het for it) and pass it to the child.

    I have hazel eyes (which are defined as blue, green, blue-green, or gray, with brown specks) are the result of two codominant genes which are both expressed at the same time. The interesting thing is that, at times my eyes appear very blue. Other times, they appear more like olive-green. They actually change color, but the brown specks always remain.

    A good example of this type of color in snakes, are the "super" forms of some morphs. The "super" form for a codominant gene is expressed when the snake inherited the codominant gene from both parents. But even "hets" which only inherited the gene from one parent, still display the trait. Sometimes they are called "visual hets".
    Very interesting, I didnt know that human eyes can change color, theres something new to learn everyday.

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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctah_Lu View Post
    Very interesting, I didnt know that human eyes can change color, theres something new to learn everyday.
    They don't actually change color. It just depends on what color you are wearing, or surrounded by I guess. Certain colors next to other certain colors will make each other stand out alot. For instance if you have hazel eyes, and you wear a red shirt, more than likely your eyes will look more green, as red and green are complimentary colors(opposites on the color wheel).
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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctah_Lu View Post
    Very interesting, I didnt know that human eyes can change color.
    I never said they change color.

    From the web: "Hazel eyes are difficult to define because their appearance changes with surrounding colors and lighting. Like blue and green eyes, hazel eyes are as reflective as a pond. If the sky is blue, the water appears to be blue; if the sky is overcast, the water appears to be gray or brown. Captured in photographs, without the benefit of the natural scattering of light, hazel eyes often appear brown or dark gray"

    To complicate matters, even though my eyes are defined as "hazel" I don't think they look anything like "typical" hazel eyes. You have to look very closely to see any brown at all and there's very little. Just saying that sometimes they give the overall impression that they are blue, other times, olive green. Most of the time, they look blue, but a sort of greyed out blue, not piercing bright blue. They look like this:



    My mothers eyes are that same color of blue, but no brown specs, and her I.D. says they are blue. (Dads are brown) Just the very few traces of brown specs makes mine hazel, I guess, but they don't look hazel to me. I've even gotten grief from the cops over that one. They didn't think I was who I said I am.

    Apparently, the "blue" gene my mother carries is NOT recessive as most blue eyes are. Combined with the brown eyes my dad has, I ended up having both colors in my eye. Anyway, I guess where this falls into the discussion of snakes is that some genes for color are codominant. Meaning, genes for two different colors can both have an effect on the outer appearance of the offspring and so the offspring will have a combination of both.

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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I never said they change color.

    Yes you did

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post

    They actually change color, but the brown specks always remain.
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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Must have been a typo. Seriously, it should have read "they don't actually change color" and if you look at what else I said, I said that they appear blue at times, green at others. Not that they actually are.

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    Re: Colors in Garters

    Eyes don't have a color.

    First one to explain why, gets a prize.

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