Brumation conditions: Dry, humid or wet?

[ConcinusMan]

In most cases, floridated and chlorinated. In some places it's horrible tasting, in others, it's just somewhat tolerable. In any case, it comes out of the tap and you can smell chlorine gas. Unless you happen to be lucky enough to get your water from a private well. Where I'm at now is rated some of the best tap water in the country. I still don't drink it. Not because it's not safe, but because it tastes like crap.

[Artic Exotics]

Alaskan tap water is supposed to be all pure and from the glaciers and junk. in real life it contains a good amount of arsenic and everywhere ive been the tap water tastes terrible... Its not just you lol

[Jeff B]

I have often witnessed most of my snakes completely submerged in the water bowl during brumation. I was talking to Joe about this a couple years ago and he said he often sees the same thing.

[ConcinusMan]

Mine are almost always in their water bowl while brumating. I also change the water every few days but I keep the substrate dry. No dehydration issues.

[Invisible Snake]

Hey is 40 degrees Fahrenheit (4.4 degrees Celsius) too cold for garters in brumation?

[Stefan-A]

For southern species, probably.

[ConcinusMan]

Hey is 40 degrees Fahrenheit (4.4 degrees Celsius) too cold for garters in brumation?

I think that's pushing it. I go with 45 F minimum, 50 max. 90-120 days.

[Selkielass]

Mine are at about 45the degrees, and I still see a lot of movement and evidence of movement (debris in water dish) when I look in each day.
They've been taken slowly down to this temp for several days.
Will they slow down more or is this activity normal?

[ConcinusMan]

Mine are at about 45the degrees, and I still see a lot of movement and evidence of movement (debris in water dish) when I look in each day.

So? It's not like they never move during brumation. If people are making sure they are totally immobilized, no wonder they're dehydrating. Around here, snakes actually come out of their dens (although they don't wander) on mild winter days to catch some sun. It is thought that they also move deeper during cold spells and move closer to the surface when it's warmer. There is some winter activity when the temperatures/conditions allow it.

Remember, snakes don't truly hibernate. Don't expect them to be totally unconscious.

[Selkielass]

This is my first attempt at full brumation- I'm not sure how much movement is normal, and how much would signify something is wrong -w too much noise light etc.
It surprised me to see one of the butlers moving toward the back of the bin when I opened the door this morning.