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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Hahaha, funny. Oh well, you got Wayne now.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Hahaha, funny. Oh well, you got Wayne now.
    Not one part of what I said was intended as a joke.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    It was still funny

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Speaking of funny.



    October 7, 2012.


    This is a rough translation and summary of the necropsy report I got this morning. Took a lot longer than expected to get it.

    Result:
    1. Extreme anemia.
    2. Fatal internal bleeding.

    Specific findings:
    -The snake is severely anemic and was severely anemic before the internal bleeding.
    -Mucous membranes in the mouth extremely white.
    -Large amounts of bloody fluids in the body cavity. 3 cm long blood clot along the oviduct.
    -Bloody fluids in the membrane around the oviduct and the intestines.
    -The liver is pale, some minor hematomas. Multifocal necrosis. The histological changes probably caused by lack of oxygen.
    -No signs of infection.
    -No changes in lungs, heart, brains or kidneys.
    Now all that remains is to find a cause for the cause of death.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Glad you finally got the results back but it looks like it's only raised more question. At least those questions are more focused now.
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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Www. What a shame.
    maybe something went wrong w follicle development?

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Selkielass View Post
    Www. What a shame.
    maybe something went wrong w follicle development?
    My thinking right now, is that it is related to this problem from 2010:

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    A couple of pictures from July.





    The pictures were taken by the vet. I stole them from their facebook page.

    The vet had mentioned a constriction around the oviduct back then. She's thrown slugs twice since then without any visible problems, but I guess that second time did some damage she couldn't recover from. I want to emphasize that this is just a guess.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    My thinking right now, is that it is related to this problem from 2010:




    The vet had mentioned a constriction around the oviduct back then. She's thrown slugs twice since then without any visible problems, but I guess that second time did some damage she couldn't recover from. I want to emphasize that this is just a guess.
    I'd say that's a logical conclusion. It's a shame mate.
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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Such a shame
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    Re: Stefan's garters

    A shame indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by gregmonsta View Post
    I'd say that's a logical conclusion.
    Nah, it's just a guess. I'm not a vet and I can't think of any other reasons based on what little I know of veterinary medicine. I might end up consulting a vet.

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