Jesse's garter snakes

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I would say male. If i remember correctly you popped all of them when you first got them and they all popped.

[RedSidedSPR]

He was the only one I didn't pop, because Scott popped him right in front of me. Can't believe you remember that thanks LOL

[BLUESIRTALIS]

My memory amazes me sometimes.

he was the only one i didn't pop, because scott popped him right in front of me. Can't believe you remember that thanks lol

[BLUESIRTALIS]

You really are going to have to quit letting him watch glee.

my oldest adult is either gay or really dumb cuz he keeps trying to mate with my other male....

Never mentioned it but i moved out 2 of the no-longer-called-babies babies out of their cage and into my solitary male as they are now big enough. They're all loving it, its cool seeing him interact with other snakes instead of just looking bore all day.

It's now spooner, smoke, and red in one cage, rooster and oscar in the other.

Also planning on setting up another tank, all females , for future breeding.

[ConcinusMan]

He was the only one I didn't pop,

Which is why I don't do it. It can only confirm what I suspected already; that the snake is male. But it's not reliable at doing so at all. Many of them won't pop. Doesn't mean they're female so the practice isn't very useful to me. Now, if males AND females both popped reliably but had different parts, I'd do it. But that's not the case. If you ask me, it's no more reliable than sexing them visually, which I'm pretty good at. Good enough that I'll get about the same accuracy rate as trying to pop them.

This year I'm not even bothering. I'm not sexing baby snakes. I'm selling them as unsexed. Now, those of you that want specific sexes, I'll do my best to sex them visually but I won't back it up or guarantee it. Still, I'm pretty good at it and accuracy rate is around 85 percent or better.

[RedSidedSPR]

Well yeah, but sometimes the confirmation is worth trying. I agree it's not reliable as an actual sexing, but it's not completely pointless.

You really are going to have to quit letting him watch glee.

Ikr

[ConcinusMan]

Well yeah, but sometimes the confirmation is worth trying.

Why? to confirm what I already knew? And what of those that I suspect are female? Should I try to pop them? What if nothing comes out? Does it mean they are female for sure? NO. So, pointless. What if I'm sure it's a male and I still don't get anything coming out? Should I then conclude it's a female? NO. So, pointless.

Look, this is how Amy (a boy) ended up with a girls name. Breeder "popped" nothing came out so marked as female. I take one look at the snake and it looked male to me, but I just went with what the breeder told me. Low and behold, my suspicion was right. He is a male. I didn't need popping to tell me that. In his case, sexing visually by me, was accurate. Because he didn't pop, the breeder thought he was a girl.

In other words, popping at best, isn't any better than just an experienced eye, sexing visually. You're still going to have mistakes.

[RedSidedSPR]

Yeah, you're right. Obviously pointless for females but still, it can prove if something's male, if you're not sure, just don't dub it female if nothing pops..... Like I bought my checkered at a show, he was labeled male, but he had this really female-looking tail/vent, so just to make sure, I popped him, and proved him male. If it hadn't popped, I wouldn't have dubbed him female, but having the proof pop out proved what I would have called female, a male.

It's an unreliable, often pointless tactic but it be useful. Just don't judge on its NOT popping

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Popping may not be 100% accurate but it's our most effective way of sexing babies. I feel like if a suspected female don't pop after 3 or 4 times it's got to be female. You just have to know what you are doing when it comes to popping. If it pops male then you're done sexing that one. I have had babies with the taper that i would have swore were females and they popped male. The visual thing is only effective in adults. The first thing i do is look at them and then i pop to see if i get the same conclusion.

[RedSidedSPR]

Exactly^

And yeah, I'm only talking about babies, adult visual is perfectly effective.