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08-14-2012, 01:59 PM
#121
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Re: Mike's Garters
awesome, you need to keep and raise them all to see how they turn out, it seems the "blue anery" ones start with some red and then lose it over time.
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08-14-2012, 02:13 PM
#122
Re: Mike's Garters
 Originally Posted by mikem
I suspected it, but wasn't 100%.
Oh, i was pretty sure. Of course, we don't know who the father is, but from what I've heard, there is one person in NW Oregon that has bred these anerys and it was anery X anery. Pretty much got the same results you did. I have a feeling that some of those babies will end up looking like mom eventually.
Still thinking this is polymorphism. You wouldn't believe the variety found in that population. Perfectly "normal" to hypoerythristic, to anery without blue, to very blue anery, to anything in between. Thinking polymorphism, with the anery trait having variable expression.
 Originally Posted by BUSHSNAKE
awesome, you need to keep and raise them all to see how they turn out, it seems the "blue anery" ones start with some red and then lose it over time.
I think so too. Never seen a fully anery or blue anery baby but I've seen results like this in litters. Who knows how they turn out when they mature.
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08-14-2012, 03:39 PM
#123
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Re: Mike's Garters
...and because its a natural varient the term anerythristic should never be used to describe it lol
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08-14-2012, 03:41 PM
#124
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Re: Mike's Garters
....and because its not black with a light patern hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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08-14-2012, 03:50 PM
#125
I like snakes!
Re: Mike's Garters
Fine, blue phase
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08-14-2012, 03:50 PM
#126
Re: Mike's Garters
Alright Joe. Whatever you're smoking, pass it over. You know darn well why we call it anerythristic.
 Originally Posted by mikem
Fine,blue phase  I've just been calling them anery because everyone else has. I don't know, lol 
No. That won't work either. Not all of the concinnus' lacking red/orange have blue anywhere on them. Furthermore, plenty of "normals" with normal red/orange do have blue.
We are calling them anery for lack of anything better to call them.
Anerythrism is defined as the absence of the pigment erythrin, which is mainly the reds and also the yellow pigments. These snakes not only lack the usual orange or red, but also never have any yellow in their stripes. Just turquoise, blue, or white.
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08-14-2012, 03:54 PM
#127
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Re: Mike's Garters
bubblebubblebubble..........exhale
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08-14-2012, 04:57 PM
#128
Re: Mike's Garters
Oh look, your face is turning blue. Just like these snakes.
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08-14-2012, 05:30 PM
#129
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Re: Mike's Garters
im anerythristic..hahahaha
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08-15-2012, 05:26 AM
#130
Old and wise snake
Re: Mike's Garters
Congrats Mike on the babies. Wasn't it just a few months ago you were garterless?? Are you trying to out do Steve?
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