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  1. #21
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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-uk View Post
    Based on the last photo I would have suggested that there's mosaicism going on. A mosaic is where the cells from two fertilised eggs get combined shortly after fertilisation, it happens in humans and other animals so why not a snake? However, if this is the third litter with one of these snakes in it lighting would be more likely to strike you three times, so it makes the mosaic less likely unless mosaics are more common in snakes.
    Aso known in the States as a chimaera. Chimaeras usually show some form of bilateral asymmetry, which this little guy lacks.
    Not that Steve, a different Steve

  2. #22
    "Preparing For Second shed"
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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    very nice congrats !!!

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    "First shed In Progress"
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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    I love that paradox looking albino! Great little guys you got here!
    3.3.1 Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
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    Thamnophis houstonius ProXimuS's Avatar
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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Cool! Nice litter! I really love that last guy! If you can could you show us a pic of the two different eyes on him?
    ~* Emily *~
    Canis lupus familiaris- Tippy, Thamnophis proximus orarius- Proximus, Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis- Tallie

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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Amazing! Congrats!
    Kat
    2.2 T.s.pickeringii, 0.4.7 T.ordinoides 1.1 T.marcianus 1.1 T. radix 1.0 T.s.parietalis 1.2 Pseudacris regilla

  6. #26
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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Aso known in the States as a chimaera. Chimaeras usually show some form of bilateral asymmetry, which this little guy lacks.
    Need to correct myself - can't tell bilateral a/symmetry from the picture provided.
    Not that Steve, a different Steve

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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    That albino snake must be a chimera or mosaic, not a "piebald" Mosaic (genetics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Fascinating! Very rare, and of great interest to science, not just to "snake people"

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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Not rare, pops up in almost every albino strain eventually.

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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Congrats on all the babies. They are gorgeous. It seems like a lot of the members breed their snakes.

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    Re: Surprise, Surprise

    Quote Originally Posted by snakeman View Post
    Not rare, pops up in almost every albino strain eventually.
    News to me. But I suppose if it weren't for the albino part, one probably wouldn't even notice if it was a chimera.

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