What subspecies are my Snakes?

[BUSHSNAKE]

lol

[SnakesInCoconuts]

So we need to see a few more body shots of Cuddles then...

I'll post some full body and head shots of them both, then. Might as well.

[EasternGirl]

You know all this talk and it just sunk in that you live in Manitoba! I would probably give away most of my earthly belongings (minus my snakes) to live in Manitoba. You are so lucky. Do you visit the dens often? I will make it there someday....*drifts off into a daydream state*.....

[ConcinusMan]

Be careful what you wish for. Nice to visit in the spring for a week or two when they emerge, but live there? Have you ever actually researched the climate?

I'll bet that if the snakes had wheels or wings, they would head south too.

" frost-free season, consisting of between 120 and 140 days"

That's just 2-3 months to you and I. Screw that! I'll take my frost free season at 6-10 months, with a side order of less than 12 inches of rain annually, thank you.

Yikes: Climate of Manitoba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[JosvdB]

I don't know much about American months but wouldn't that be 4-4.5 months?

Awesome photo btw

[ConcinusMan]

America is a big place with many climate types. Western WA is only pleasant from May or June to about Oct 1st. The rest of the time is very wet and/or snowing. Southern California (at low coastal elevations) is semiarid, semitropical so remains pretty warm and sunny year-round and usually doesnt see much rain. Southern Florida is tropical. The deep south is extreme. Very hot and humid summers, but is prone to blizzards and extreme cold in winter, which lasts about 4 months.

I live in So. California, in the mojave desert above Los Angeles, but it's high elevation. We do get some snow and freezing temperatures two-3 months of the year in Jan-Feb. The rest of the time its sunny and warm. Less than 6 inches of rain annually. Winter is very brief and rather mild most years.

[SnakesInCoconuts]

Here's Cuddles:
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"what the heck are you doing?"
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And here's Anders:
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I'll make another post since there's a limit

[SnakesInCoconuts]

Here's more Cuddles:_DSC0178.jpg

And some more Anders:
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Hope that helps.

[EasternGirl]

Okay...well looking at those faces...those are not the same subspecies...right guys? Anders face almost looks like a radix to me. And Cuddles face looks eastern to me...but his body doesn't look eastern. I'm going to look again and count scales...I'm thinking out loud here....

[EasternGirl]

7 supralabials on Anders...I'm so tired...I don't know. I'm going with what I originally said...eastern for Cuddles...red-sided for Anders....or red-sided for both maybe. Anders body doesn't look like a radix to me.