just making sure

[greene]

Ok so I'm going to try to get a garter and ive read that I can keep it in a cage that when the length and width are added up it is longer than the snake is long is that true?

[guidofatherof5]

I think you are right but don't be limited to that.
The more space the more exploring they can do and maybe feel more comfortable.

Keep an eye on Craigslist for some cheap aquariums with sliding screen lids.

[infernalis]

I am a big fan of oversize cages for garter snakes, they like to move around.

[greene]

Ok. Ill look but I don't really like buying stuff online. Do the lids have to be sliding?

[guidofatherof5]

They fit the best and stay more secure.
You might have to look online for it but you will probably be buying it from someone in your own town.

[greene]

That.makes me feel better. Is it possible for it to escape of it isn't sliding?

[guidofatherof5]

Sit on top lids usually don't sit flush to the top and require some kind of weight to be place on it. This is all a hassle when it comes time to feed or change substrate.
Many plastic sit-on-top lids warp from lights being used.
The slider lids have always been a better top in my opinion.
Just my opinion.

[Steveo]

That.makes me feel better. Is it possible for it to escape of it isn't sliding?

It depends on the design. I once had had a tub with a lid that covered but didn't latch, so in a pinch I weighed it down with textbooks.

I like the sliding/locking screen lids because I once saw a yearling kingsnake spend hours wedging herself in the tiny gap between the lid and the frame. Without the latch mechanism on top, she may have been able to slide the screen enough to get out. If it was a lid that was just held on by gravity, she could easily lift it up and slide out.

[Steveo]

But having said the above, I try to get creative and come up with cheap solutions. The sliding and latching lids really are the best bet. They're also waaaay more expensive than plastic tubs. Since I have too many snakes to have them all on display, I've considered buying a plastic tub with lid, melting holes in the lid and tub, and using wire to hold the two together. Somewhat tedious, but then I don't have to worry about finding tubs that fit in my racks or running out of rack space. Has anyone else tried something similar?

[greene]

Would I be able to put rags under the lid so it has no place to get out