First time here.

[guidofatherof5]

On another note..........do Robins eat brown snakes? I was going to put it out this morning in the wet sunny grass, but there was a ton of Robins in the yard and I feared for it's life.

Yes they do especially during nesting time.

[kueluck]

Well my neighbor released him and watched him explore the area, then head into a crack in a log. Now in search of a c/b ribbon.

[guidofatherof5]

Well my neighbor released him and watched him explore the area, then head into a crack in a log. Now in search of a c/b ribbon.

Best wishes to the little brown.

Why are you set on getting a ribbon snake?
They are more of a specialized feeder and can be much more jumpy then many other Thamnophis species.

[kueluck]

The main reason is size. I only have a 29 long and can't go larger. The ribbons are one of the smaller garters, correct? From reading posts of others they sound like they are easy to handle and tame down quickly. I've also checked out lots of the youtube videos on them and it sounds like the right choice. Your input is well appreciated. Not sure what you mean by specialized feeders.

[guidofatherof5]

The main reason is size. I only have a 29 long and can't go larger. The ribbons are one of the smaller garters, correct? From reading posts of others they sound like they are easy to handle and tame down quickly. I've also checked out lots of the youtube videos on them and it sounds like the right choice. Your input is well appreciated. Not sure what you mean by specialized feeders.

I by no means have a lot of experience with ribbon snakes and I would be interested in hearing what some other members think.

[Stefan-A]

The main reason is size. I only have a 29 long and can't go larger. The ribbons are one of the smaller garters, correct? From reading posts of others they sound like they are easy to handle and tame down quickly. I've also checked out lots of the youtube videos on them and it sounds like the right choice. Your input is well appreciated. Not sure what you mean by specialized feeders.

They are not exactly among the smaller garters, they're pretty much medium size and for their size, they probably need more space than other garters. The reason why you may have gotten the impression that they are easy to handle and tame down quickly, is because it's so rare and people tend to make a bigger deal about it when they succeed. I wouldn't bother posting about managing to tame a T. elegans vagrans, for example, because they're all tame and very easy to handle.

Ribbon snakes are specialized in amphibians and amphibian larvae and it can be a real pain in the *** to get them to eat mice and outright impossible to get them to eat worms. Personally, I'd recommend a generalist, like T. sirtalis, T. radix or T. elegans.

[RedSidedSPR]

Biggest thamnophis I've ever seen was a ribbon.

[kueluck]

hhmmm...........maybe I need to state what I am looking for in a snake.
1. One that will tolerate, or even enjoy being handled.
2. One that eats pinkies, I can't feed something alive accept for worms or fish.
3. Will thrive in a 29 long tank
4. And prefer a native of NC (I also keep Cope's tree frogs & Fowler's toads)
Now if non of this applies I may have to go in the back yard and hunt down that little brown snake!

[guidofatherof5]

Snakes of North Carolina

Not in your area but I would be amiss if I didn't suggest a T.radix (Plains Garter Snake)

[kueluck]

But would a 3ft long snake thrive in a 29 long tank?

Snakes of North Carolina

Not in your area but I would be amiss if I didn't suggest a T.radix (Plains Garter Snake)