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    general questions

    Ok im getting ready to pair my albino T. marcianus in a couple months. I just have a few questions. Can two albinos produce normal colored offspring? What does the terms het and hypo mean? How do I know what to label the babies as? Like would any of them be het, or hypo? Ive had my garters for about 2 years now. Tried breeding them once. They got along just great, but unfortunately I didnt know the needed to be brumated at the time. Also is there any suggestions you can give me as to caring for the young. Like special things I might not think of? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Re: general questions

    Albino + albino = albinos


    Hypomelanistic - containing decreased amount of black and brown melanin.

    Here's a link to Jeff B. homepage and a great article explaining some aspect of genetics.
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    Re: general questions

    There is an entire forum dedicated to breeding on this site...you may want to check it out: Breeding
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    Re: general questions

    ok thanks very much. i will check it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Albino + albino = albinos


    Hypomelanistic - containing decreased amount of black and brown melanin.

    Here's a link to Jeff B. homepage and a great article explaining some aspect of genetics.
    Garter Snake Morph

    Brumation is not always necessary for successful breeding.

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    Re: general questions

    thanks. i have been reading through it as much as i can. still just not sure on some of the terms.
    Quote Originally Posted by EasternGirl View Post
    There is an entire forum dedicated to breeding on this site...you may want to check it out: Breeding

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    Re: general questions

    Are your two albinos unrelated? There are many albinos that have been inbred for generations, so more likely to have problems with the babies.

    Here's one for the morph breeders - how many morph strains are there for marcianus? And if you breed two albinos with different base mutations, do you get more robust albinos?
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    Re: general questions

    as far as i know they are unrelated. the guy that i got them from never bred them. this will be the first brumation they have went through, and the first pairing after brumating.
    Quote Originally Posted by chris-uk View Post
    Are your two albinos unrelated? There are many albinos that have been inbred for generations, so more likely to have problems with the babies.

    Here's one for the morph breeders - how many morph strains are there for marcianus? And if you breed two albinos with different base mutations, do you get more robust albinos?

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    Re: general questions

    Chances are, they are related.

    Like it has been said before, this strain has been heavily inbred forever.

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    Re: general questions

    Quote Originally Posted by infernalis View Post
    Chances are, they are related.

    Like it has been said before, this strain has been heavily inbred forever.
    maybe this could be an opportunity for those members with some knowledge of genetics to map out a way to freshen up our albino checkereds in future generations.
    i know it can be complicated talking genes but is there a way to explain it to us thicko's.
    for instance i have 1 albino female 1 normal female both unrelated, two unrelated males one of whom is from a wild caught father,....i have some young from the albino and male number2 also young from the normal female and the son of the wild caught ....the question is would that be enough genetic material to out cross and eventually get a vigorous albino and if so how many generations would it take to reach that point.
    ​I'm not actually a gynecologist...but i'll take a look.

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    Re: general questions

    If you have any questions about terms you do not understand, feel free to ask...
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