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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    I say male from the looks of that face/head structure. An under tail photo would be great.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Yes! My latest thing is trying to sex snakes via pics...I think I'm getting rather good at it (if I don't say so myself..pat pat).
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I say male from the looks of that face/head structure. An under tail photo would be great.

    I've been working on sexing some garters by head structure but always backup that guess with a good photo of the under side tail.
    I would never solely rely on this as a way to sex garters. It's only a piece of the puzzle.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

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    Here's some tail photos for ya... I am almost thinking male? I had thought female at first but I no know.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Yes Please! Shoot! Slow computer!
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Light of Dae View Post
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    Here's some tail photos for ya... I am almost thinking male? I had thought female at first but I no know.

    That third photo is the most telling.
    I see a nice smooth taper from the vent. The tail doesn't retain any width down from the vent/cloaca. Just a nice steady taper.
    FEMALE I would say. FEMALE.

    This shows me that using head structure/size as the only sexing observation would be a bad idea.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Really? I'm saying male...I see no taper. Is it possible to get a straight pic of the tail? Could you hold the snake straight? You know more than me Steve...but I am not seeing the taper.

    When I am looking in my Evolution and Ecology book...that looks exactly like the male diagram.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post

    FEMALE I would say. FEMALE.

    This shows me that using head structure/size as the only sexing observation would be a bad idea.
    I would say female but a shot of the whole snake from above and from the side, while the snake is just sitting on something would help.

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternGirl View Post
    Really? I'm saying male...I see no taper.
    The area immediately after the vent isn't as wide as the area immediately before the vent. Looks female.

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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Well then I am completely lost on this whole sexing thing because that tail looks exactly like the tail in the male pic on page 126 in the Evolution and Ecology book...it doesn't look like the female pic at all...or like my female's tail. On the female tail pic in the photo on page 126 the tail tapers in noticeably after the cloaca...that is how Cee Cee's tail tapers...it goes in and then back out again. I don't see that at all on this snakes tail. I would really like to see a straight pic of the tail.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    I would go female too. Steady taper with no width maintained after the cloacha.
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