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Re: Milk snakes and garters.
As for Natrix natrix, I see them pretty frequently around here. A few years ago I even found a baby under a stone along with a slow-worm (legless lizard, even more common); today I would probably grab this baby and run like crazy to make a viv. They are protected species, BTW., just as every amphibian or reptile in Poland. Though I would happily keep a male (females are too big for my taste) - they are very common and I can't imagine how taking one male would harm natural enviroment. Oh well, I have criminal thoughts. 
Never saw a smooth snake nor adder though, but according to sources, they do occur in my area; smooth snakes eat lizards and, like I said, there's plenty of legless lizards and sand lizards around here. I wouldn't take one though, unless I find out there's a big population around (which I doubt), not to mention problems with food supply.
Kleopatra - never forget. [*]; Lamprophis fuliginosus, male - Amon; Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis, male - Izy; Pantherophis guttatus anerythristic, female, Nefretete; Lampropeltis sinaloae - Vita.
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T.s. affectionado
Re: Milk snakes and garters.
Isn't it very cold for snakes there in Poland?
Marnie
3.3 T.s.sirtalis 1.0 T.marcianus 1.2 T.radix 1.0 T.s.parietalis
Izzy, Seeley, Ziggy, Perseus, Peanut, Snapper, Hermes, Sadie, Osiris, Seraphina, Little Joe
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Re: Milk snakes and garters.
Nah, Poland isn't Siberia, you know. I never saw a white bear around anyway. It's December and it's 15 degrees (C) at night. No snow either - hope it will change at christmas though. 
The reason there's not much snakes around is because Poland is surrounded by mountains from south (Carpathians; Tatry) south-east (Beskidy) and south-west (Karkonosze). It's hard for animals to cross this natural border and thus adapt to little lower temperature I guess. But sporadically, you can find some species from southern Europe in here - the problem is they fail to establish a fair population because of small number of speciments that can't survive winter, can't find a partner or population is too sparse (which means they can't adapt quick enough).
Kleopatra - never forget. [*]; Lamprophis fuliginosus, male - Amon; Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis, male - Izy; Pantherophis guttatus anerythristic, female, Nefretete; Lampropeltis sinaloae - Vita.
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Re: Milk snakes and garters.
 Originally Posted by infernalis
I can't help myself - the garter is like: hurrrrrrr, me not edible. I'm always suprised how many faces they have... Cute, evil, and so on.
Anyway - I'm wondering, Wayne - do corns occur in your area? I mean, my Nefri looks just like those milk snakes. Anery to be specific? Thanks in advance.
Kleopatra - never forget. [*]; Lamprophis fuliginosus, male - Amon; Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis, male - Izy; Pantherophis guttatus anerythristic, female, Nefretete; Lampropeltis sinaloae - Vita.
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T.s. affectionado
Re: Milk snakes and garters.
I am hoping that we get snow here for Christmas too! We haven't had any snow in Delaware yet either.
Marnie
3.3 T.s.sirtalis 1.0 T.marcianus 1.2 T.radix 1.0 T.s.parietalis
Izzy, Seeley, Ziggy, Perseus, Peanut, Snapper, Hermes, Sadie, Osiris, Seraphina, Little Joe
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Re: Milk snakes and garters.
 Originally Posted by Bart
I can't help myself - the garter is like: hurrrrrrr, me not edible.  I'm always suprised how many faces they have... Cute, evil, and so on.
Anyway - I'm wondering, Wayne - do corns occur in your area? I mean, my Nefri looks just like those milk snakes. Anery to be specific? Thanks in advance.
No, Corns only exist in private collections around here. no naturally occurring wild specimens out there.
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Re: Milk snakes and garters.
Hmm, it's a shame. I was thinking that if those milks look like anery corns - corns would also have smiliar colour, because it seems this one is preffered.
Kleopatra - never forget. [*]; Lamprophis fuliginosus, male - Amon; Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis, male - Izy; Pantherophis guttatus anerythristic, female, Nefretete; Lampropeltis sinaloae - Vita.
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T.s. affectionado
Re: Milk snakes and garters.
We have corns around here...the pretty yelow/orange kind and a black kind. I have never seen any in the wild though. But Joe told me that his friend got his W/C's from Delaware I believe.
Marnie
3.3 T.s.sirtalis 1.0 T.marcianus 1.2 T.radix 1.0 T.s.parietalis
Izzy, Seeley, Ziggy, Perseus, Peanut, Snapper, Hermes, Sadie, Osiris, Seraphina, Little Joe
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Re: Milk snakes and garters.
So my Izy keeps herself burrowed since my sinaloe milk snake has arrived. This can be caused by little lower temperature though. Anyone has both garter and milk/king snake and observed strange behaviour of one of them?
Kleopatra - never forget. [*]; Lamprophis fuliginosus, male - Amon; Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis, male - Izy; Pantherophis guttatus anerythristic, female, Nefretete; Lampropeltis sinaloae - Vita.
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Pyrondenium Rose
Re: Milk snakes and garters.
She could be scared, so she's hiding herself.
Chantel
2.2.3 Thamnophis ordinoides Derpy Scales, Hades, Mama, Runt, Pumpkin, Azul, Spots
(Rest in peace Snakey, Snap, Speckles, Silver, Ember and Angel.)
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