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    How many will fit?

    OK, I've decided to get some garters when I get back from Thanksgiving break. How many could I comfortably house in my 20L? What sex calms down and accepts handling more readily (opinions please!?) Our hognose isn't too wiggly, I've played on Pogo.com while holding him.
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    Re: How many will fit?

    How many depends on size of the snakes.
    Females as a rule are quick to trust and calm down.
    If you're talking about young adults I would think 2 could live in a 20 long.
    Full size adults should have more room.
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    Re: How many will fit?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    How many depends on size of the snakes.
    Is there a chart somewhere that shows adult sizes per species or do I have to go from page to page to compile one?!
    Theresa in Indy
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    T. radix Ranch guidofatherof5's Avatar
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    Re: How many will fit?

    Adults of the different species range in size.
    Best to figure out what you are interested in and it's availablilty.
    If you're purchasing snakes you will probably be buying young (under 1 year old) snakes.
    A 20 long will work fine for awhile with them.
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    Re: How many will fit?

    Do you still use the width of tank + depth of tank should be > than the length of the snake rule of thumb?!
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    T. radix Ranch guidofatherof5's Avatar
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    Re: How many will fit?

    I know there is a formula used but I don't know it.
    I think I remember Wayne posting it once.
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    Re: How many will fit?

    I think that if a snake can have its body touching one side of the width, and the length of it (Like this, |_ ) the tank is too small to hold the snake. I hope that makes sense, I can't illustrate it right now... So you'll just have to make out all of my gibberish
    Chantel
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    Re: How many will fit?

    Did you mean a 20 Gallon or a 20 Liter? In the first post you wrote 20L... Because a 20 Liter is about 5 gallons, which would be too small for even a fairly young snake.

    Like Steve said, a 20 long is good for a couple babies, but they'll need to be moved as they grow. A 20-25 gallon is okay for one adult, but the more room the better. My 2.5 foot adult eastern is perfectly happy in a 25 gallon, but even being totally blind he utilizes every bit of floor space in it as well as some hanging vines I've installed. They're very energetic snakes.

    Most garters end up around 2.5 feet (males) to 3.5 feet (females). There are some species like Northwesterns that are considerably smaller, but a lot of the more commonly sold species like Easterns and Radixes usually fit in that size range.

    Temperament seems more based off of species than gender. Males are generally more active, while females prefer to stay still more, but both settle down equally well. Just a heads up though; your buying options are going to be pretty limited this time of year since breeding goes on in the spring. Do some research on exactly what you want before getting one.
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    Re: How many will fit?

    20L is usually what people use for a "20 gallon long", meaning it's longer than it is high
    Chantel
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    Re: How many will fit?

    Ohh, that makes sense now! I was on the goldfish forum earlier, so I'm still thinking Liters. lol

    Also, I just realized that I have stayed up so late that people from the other side of the country are awake and posting. Wow.
    Lora

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