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    Re: Advice and guidance

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I say it's not a Northwestern.

    I'm going with T.e.vagrans(Wandering Garter Snake) I base it on those dots along the dorsal stripe.
    I agree. Head is all wrong to be a northwestern. Definitely looks fairly typical for a WA wandering. (T. elegans vagrans)

    The much larger head that is well offset from the neck, and like Steve said, the dots that sort of overlap the dorsal stripe, are a good way to tell them apart from northwesterns. Northwesterns have much smaller heads in relation to their body, and narrow snouts with sometimes a sort of "square" nose. Wanderings will have large broad heads that are more rounded.

    I wouldn't keep them together. The wandering just might get irritated with the northwestern and eat it. Chances are pretty slim, but it does happen.

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    Re: Advice and guidance

    Michael
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    Re: Advice and guidance

    That was a great article where did you find it? Were there ones on NW and Pugets?
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    Re: Advice and guidance

    Okay, I got pictures of my girls together Pumpkin has a much smaller head and it is more square as well. IMG_0026.jpg
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    Re: Advice and guidance

    Also here is a good photo of Pumpkins little face. IMG_0008.JPG
    0.2.4 T.s. Fitchi - Flickabee and Salem
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    Re: Advice and guidance

    Looking good Pumpkin!
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