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to feed or not to feed that is the question
was wondering what everyone thought were on feeding or not feeding during burmations?
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Pyrondenium Rose
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
I wouldn't feed, it's cold enough to make their metabolism stop and the food will likely rot in their stomachs.
Chantel
2.2.3 Thamnophis ordinoides Derpy Scales, Hades, Mama, Runt, Pumpkin, Azul, Spots
(Rest in peace Snakey, Snap, Speckles, Silver, Ember and Angel.)
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T. radix Ranch
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
Never. Brumation is a time of fasting. Chantel advice is solid.
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I have a condition!
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
It would kill them wouldn't it? I mean, if you brumate without a 2 week fast first, they die...
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Pyrondenium Rose
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
That would be the food rotting and them going septic, I believe it's called. Imagine food rotting in your belly, not being able to digest it.
Chantel
2.2.3 Thamnophis ordinoides Derpy Scales, Hades, Mama, Runt, Pumpkin, Azul, Spots
(Rest in peace Snakey, Snap, Speckles, Silver, Ember and Angel.)
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Forum Moderator
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
What has been said is fact...
If you want to feed them, then don't brumate.
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Forum Moderator
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
If the snakes are properly brumating, they would not show interest in food anyways. Snakes enter a natural period of fasting even before brumation in the wild. This is why around this time of year, many people's snakes go off feed even if it's still warm inside the home. They go into a rather zombie like state during brumation. They are alert, but "not all there". Regardless, they should not be offered food, as it will be the death of them if they take it!
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Never shed
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
I have a male who has just gone off feeding.. can I keep him safely over winter at reduced temps but not full blown brumation?
Perhaps just removing the heat lamp so temps would range from upper 60's to low 70's in the room?
What is the max temperature for actual brumation?
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Forum Moderator
Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
Garter snakes are the most cold tolerant snakes there are. Couple that with their high metabolism and your snake will starve if kept at those temps without food. Garter snakes will remain active, alert and feeding even in the 50's. In order to brumate you need to drop down into the 40's or even the high 30's! His metabolism will slow down some at cooler temps but it won't stop as in a state of brumation. If you don't want to do a full blown brumation and the snake has gone off feed, try unplugging the heat and lights for a week or two and put the cage in the coolest area of your house. After that time, kick the heat back on. Sometimes just a short cooling period is enough to jumpstart feeding (and even breeding) activity. In a week or two the snake will not starve or even lose weight. You could also consider refrigerating the snake for a period of time if he is really longing for a cold snap and you want him to wake up hungry. Or try a food item that's not commonly offered, sometimes a new type of food can stimulate the curious nature of a garter!
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Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question
 Originally Posted by amattel
I have a male who has just gone off feeding.. can I keep him safely over winter at reduced temps but not full blown brumation?
Perhaps just removing the heat lamp so temps would range from upper 60's to low 70's in the room?
What is the max temperature for actual brumation?
I don't have quite as much experience here as most, but last winter, I cooled their temperatures a little bit, and fed them, but less frequently (they had less of an appetite anyway). I always made sure to give them a coupe hours of heat per day in order to digest properly, but I also let their temperature dip into the 50's from time to time. It seemed to work fine.
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