Albino butlers found.Going to a museum eventually.

[ConcinusMan]

disregard

[annulataarethebest]

Then you can imagine how long I've been waiting (32 years) for someone, anyone even if it isn't me, to come up with an albino concinnus. I'm beginning to think there are none.

Who knows... I'm sure the genetics are in one of them somewhere, a albino red spotted would be insane looking. Hopefully someone does find one one day.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Who knows... I'm sure the genetics are in one of them somewhere, a albino red spotted would be insane looking. Hopefully someone does find one one day.

there was a pic of one years ago on the original thamnophis.com... was a sweet looking snake! I wasn't able to copy it tho

[ConcinusMan]

Then it didn't happen. There is no confirmed documented specimen of T. s. concinnus albino ever recorded. It was probably a parietalis, infernalis, hybrid, or something like that.

Only two albino T. ordinoides ever recorded. A third was found last summer. If that isn't rare enough, there are none for concinnus.

With that NW albino we could have created erythristic albinos, snows from melanstics, etc. That's not speculation at all. That's what slipped away.

I'm really glad to hear that this butlers wasn't a complete loss. At least the world gets to see it. No doubt that they will never let it breed though.

[Jeff B]

Neat snake, hope it is kept alive in the "museum"

[ConcinusMan]

The guy who found it is definitely and experienced herp keeper and the DNR gave him permission to raise it to adulthood. I'm pretty sure the museum can take good care of it after that. It should live a full life.

[sschind]

The guy who found it is definitely and experienced herp keeper and the DNR gave him permission to raise it to adulthood. I'm pretty sure the museum can take good care of it after that. It should live a full life.

I've known Carl for about 10 years now and if anyone has the dedication to keep that little bugger alive it's him. I have yet to see him since he has acquired this snake but I think it's about time I finagle an invitation to his house. I'll use my "can you brumate my pyros again this year Carl" excuse and then drop them off.

If you are into eastern hog nose snakes at all check out some of Carls other threads on FHF and WIreptiles. He has some pretty cool pictures about them as well. His hohnose articles have been published in HerpNation and the Chicago herp society magazine.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I've been checking out his threads/posts at FHF for about a year now. Awesome stuff.

[Eddie]

I remember that pic of the albino concinnus on the original forum. That pic inspired me to get my first red spots. It looked just like a red spot to me. Too bad we never saw off spring from it.
Ed

[RedSidedSPR]

Really? They exist? Have been captured on camera???