Pied Garters.. Has anyone seen this?

[snakeman]

Its a shame but it is what it is.Unfortunately not a whole lot of people are into northwesterns.If they can't sell it they are not going to buy it.

I find that hard to believe. You said yourself what you had given up to get these hets, (it was a lot) and yet all of you balked at the idea of me paying a few hundred dollars for the one and only albino northwestern known in existence. Saying "I would wait". Wait for what? The next opportunity which may never come?

You did it because if you are successful in producing pied garters, you know they'll be worth a fortune. You didn't make that kind of investment because your "only concern is to keep this gene alive for the hobby's sake". That's bull.

And nobody seems to recognize that this albino northwestern is the key to producing all kinds of new morphs. The potential was there to bring new morphs of this species to the hobby and bring them out of obscurity, and yes, even make money, but the attitude about that was completely different and nobody thought I should pay the guys asking price. I simply wanted to preserve that albino gene for the hobby but nobody even shared that concern. My motivation really was to keep the gene alive. Nobody gave a damn, and discouraged me from even trying to buy it.

Now you come along and pay an arm and a leg for hets from a snake that may or may not be a genetic trait and claim you did it to preserve them for the hobby. That's quite hard to swallow. Personally, I don't care why you did it and don't care if it was to make money. I just find your stated reason hard to swallow. Might be a little easier to believe if your "hobby" wasn't a registered business. Pharmaceutical companies invest millions to find new drugs. They sure as heck don't do it to help people get well. There's only one reason they invest so much and we all know what that reason is.

[katach]

Its a shame but it is what it is.Unfortunately not a whole lot of people are into northwesterns.If they can't sell it they are not going to buy it.

I LOVE NW. I have 3 adults and 8 babies. I plan on breeding my red-stripe soon with Chantel's red-stripe.

[ConcinusMan]

Its a shame but it is what it is.Unfortunately not a whole lot of people are into northwesterns.If they can't sell it they are not going to buy it.

Well in the hands of breeder that albino could have eventually produced albinos of all different stripe colors and patterns, and since erythristic and melanistic ones are pretty common, also could have produced erythristic albinos, and possibly snows. I guess my point is, where there is no market now, one can create one. Creating the new morphs can change what you are saying "not many people into them" well maybe there would be if there were some new morphs and other striking looking snakes available. I've already seen just since I've joined, an increased interest in this species.

You would spit a brick if you knew what I was offered for miss piggy, and she's just a normal red stripe. Even Jeff made quite a generous offer for her, which I turned down for a better offer. The interest is there, and increasing every day. In fact, I never did fill all the "orders" for people wanting me to get northwesterns for them. Personally I don't understand why they aren't more popular. Atratus are, and they're damn near the same snake. There's an active thread right now about someone asking if they can get them.

[RedSidedSPR]

I LOVE NW. I have 3 adults and 8 babies. I plan on breeding my red-stripe soon with Chantel's red-stripe.

I know, they're really cool. I'm surprised they're not more popular..

Actually i'm not THAT surprised just because of how much harder it is to produce them, therefore they're less available, therefore less popular...

But cool snakes.

[RedSidedSPR]

I guess my point is, where there is no market now, one can create one. I've already seen just since I've joined, an increased interest in this species.

This is true. I'd love it if they became more available, and i can see it happening in the future.

[kibakiba]

It's because they are extremely lovable, small, and for the most part, they calm down a lot faster.

[katach]

When we caught Willow, she didn't even musk me. She's been just as calm and sweet as if she were a captive bred.

[kibakiba]

Mama was a bit wild, she musked me (or maybe it was Runt who did that) after a little squirming she just kind of gave up. She had a diva like attitude for the first 3 months of owning her, then one day she just acted so sweet. Of course, it was a couple days after I got her to eat her first pinky.

[d_virginiana]

They always calm down once it really sinks in that you give them the good food

[kibakiba]

Tell that to Hades. I feed him worms every 3 days, he loves it and goes crazy for them... But still thinks biting me is the answer to all of his problems