Pied Garters.. Has anyone seen this?

[PINJOHN]

Cmon now guys get your facts straight here!!! Scott didn't end up with that pied, to my knowledge it went to Bill Minnick (spelling?) and that's probably him, he NEVER posts online, uses forums, or any of that nonsense. He's very quiet but yes he is the guy that often silently is in the background buying the rare garters. You can ask some others... The snake in the picture IS the pied garter, it only took one look for me to recognize that ugly pattern from previous photos of her (no offense but I do think she was unattractive!) and yes, she really had babies and then really she died. This is all true, I heard it long before this ad was posted. They are legit. Not good to be calling out a scam before you know the facts!

have to disagree with you Shannon, the fact that this particular advert turned out to be genuine is not the issue, most of us were unaware of the facts you presented, and i have rarely seen a worse photo of any snake in an advert, the prices being asked were not chicken feed so you might expect a better effort than the one given, for most of us this guy had come out of nowhere a complete unknown, my point being that if a real scam was perpetrated on one of the members with similar circumstances to this one, we would all [including you] be wondering how our member could have been so dumb as to fall for it, its right in my opinion to sound a warning if things don't seem quite right and for me that advert looked a wrong'un

[Chondro788]

I've e-mailed him twice now about buying some with no response?!?

[ssssnakeluvr]

he is a very busy person... be patient, he will get back with you. =)

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I emailed him too so maybe we will here something soon. I would love to have a pair of these. I know the original guy chuck who had the mom for sale, but i was scared to make an offer because she was so skinny when he got her.

[snakehill]

I wonder what the red garters he is selling are! Red plains, red sided, red easterns?

[BLUESIRTALIS]

They are from an erythristic eastern female from myrtle beach sc.

[Jeff B]

I am also getting a pair of the pied hets. Yes, Bill Minnick had the pied. He does a lot of garter stuff and pretty much stays off the forums. A friend of mine had a pied baby from a wild caught eastern garter from Illinois... small patch of white on the tail... here's a link to pics (I have a small group of his siblings)

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Glad you are getting a pair from Bill as well.
Don, that could be a ringer, rather than pied, ringers are commonly seen with non pied morphs in bp's as reference. What is the status on that snake as far as subsequent breeding results? I would doubt that would prove out.

[Chondro788]

I was thinking ringer as well when I saw the pic. I'm not sure I've heard of any other snakes (other then Balls) that have a ringer?!? I sure hope its not like the ball pythons and just a neat little trait that pops up from time to time. The interesting thing is that is in the same spot as a ball python ringer???

[ssssnakeluvr]

never heard of ringers.... baby was born a month ago. the owner will be holding it back and breeding back to mother later on.

[BUSHSNAKE]

a lot of morphs do come out of Illinois, who knows right? so lets shut our mouths and support it for all are sakes