Concinnus?

[jitami]

I've often wondered how accurate the info on rosy reds was, too. Sly ate nothing but rosy reds for several months if not longer before I switched him to pinkies 9 years ago. At the time they were considered safe... came here a few years later and learned that they're now not considered safe. I'm sure they're still on quite a few care sheets as being acceptable, so we can't totally bash someone for feeding them.

[d_virginiana]

I've often wondered how accurate the info on rosy reds was, too. Sly ate nothing but rosy reds for several months if not longer before I switched him to pinkies 9 years ago. At the time they were considered safe... came here a few years later and learned that they're now not considered safe. I'm sure they're still on quite a few care sheets as being acceptable, so we can't totally bash someone for feeding them.

From what I've read it seems like it's something that accumulates over time? idk for sure though.
Not bashing the guy for feeding them, heck I tried giving them to Houdini years ago, but he'd never take them.
But there's definitely scientific evidence out there that points to thiaminase being dangerous in all animals, not just snakes. Not trying to be mean or anything, it's just a fact.. It probably boils down to luck and the individual animal. I've read about people who fed rosy reds for three months and their snakes started to death-roll, but others have fed them for years with no issue..