Apparently, there used to be two recognized subspecies of Radix. However, due to the biological differences being minimal, the subspecies are no longer recognized as separate.
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Thread: How many are there?
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08-08-2011, 08:42 AM #11"PM Boots For Custom Title"
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Re: How many are there?
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.
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08-08-2011, 08:44 AM #12Bonniedale Farm Rescue
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Re: How many are there?
Okay! Thanks for clarifying that! So much to learn!
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08-08-2011, 08:49 AM #13T. radix Ranch
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Re: How many are there?
Can you post a link to that.
T.r radix and T. r haydenii are not recognized subspecies.
Image taken from "The Garter Snake Evolution and Ecology" by Douglas A. Rossman Neil B. Ford and Richard A. Seigal
Pages 237-238
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08-08-2011, 08:51 AM #14T. radix Ranch
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Re: How many are there?
Good info. You posted while I was creating my reply.
Originally Posted by Didymus20X6
Steve
5 awesome kids!
Emmy, Kale, Molly, Gabby, Hailee
They are not just snakes. They're garter snakes.
http://www.youtube.com/user/thamnophis14?feature=mhee
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08-08-2011, 09:40 AM #15Subadult snake
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Re: How many are there?
Thamnophis Radix Radix are found here
Eastern Plains Garter Snake
Serpent, my female I am very sure is this
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08-08-2011, 09:45 AM #16I have a condition!
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Re: How many are there?
And both are thamnophis radix. Plains garter snake
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08-08-2011, 09:51 AM #17Forum Moderator
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Re: How many are there?
It's supposed to be just "Plains", not "Great Plains".
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08-08-2011, 10:05 AM #18Subadult snake
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Re: How many are there?
what is the exact difference?
the 2 native species here is red sided and eastern plains
but it is just so confusing.. I'm seeing more than just 2 different kinds of garters in the wild
But from what I see there is 4 different patterns
Red sided (spot for example http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4602348_n.jpg)
White sided? (red sided but white has no upper pattern . . . . http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1989672_n.jpg)
eastern plains, has a .'.'.'.' pattern http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7645150_n.jpg
No pattern, just has the stripe and jet black where there should be a design http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1177008_n.jpg
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08-08-2011, 10:15 AM #19I have a condition!
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Re: How many are there?
Different look, marking etc, doesn't mean it's a different species. That "white sided" was a red sided. Just has a unique pattern.
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08-08-2011, 11:06 AM #20T. radix Ranch
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Re: How many are there?
Originally Posted by Kantar
Calling them an Eastern Plains is messing with my head.
Plains Garter snake(T.radix)
Eastern garter snake(T.s.sirtalis)Steve
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