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  1. 07-31-2011, 01:08 PM #11
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    I say Eastern.
    People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.
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  2. 07-31-2011, 02:43 PM #12
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Where are you located? State?

    Let's see what ranges in your area.
    The links he posted points to southern Kansas...
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  3. 07-31-2011, 03:18 PM #13
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by jitami View Post
    The links he posted points to southern Kansas...
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    I'm in Kansas, very close to Missouri.
    I will try to get some more face and body closeups, anything else?
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  4. 07-31-2011, 03:26 PM #14
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    Well, you have T.radix (Plains Garter), T.s.parietalis (Red Sided Garter) and T.s.sirtalis (Eastern Garter) in your area.
    T.marcanius(Checkered Garter) only ranges in a very small part of Kansas along the Oklahoma border.

    I don't think this is a Ribbon. They range in Kansas but I think it is out of the running for ID.
    Just my opinion.
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  5. 07-31-2011, 03:27 PM #15
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    That rules out the checkered garter snake then.
    I'm probably leaning towards eastern now, I have caught and adult before and it looked more like that.
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  6. 07-31-2011, 03:31 PM #16
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    I'll stand by my first guess and say T.s.sirtalis (Eastern Garter).
    I've never seen a Red Sided without red. That would really muddy up the ID water.
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  7. 07-31-2011, 03:31 PM #17
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    It can only be eastern or a red-less redsided...
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I've never seen a Red Sided without red.
    I have. Several.
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  9. 07-31-2011, 03:33 PM #19
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    Must not be any in my area.
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  10. 07-31-2011, 03:35 PM #20
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    Re: I need help IDing this Garter Snake

    never seen them in person, but they do exist. CB redsided litters often have some of those...
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