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    Re: Finally got one!

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
    Cut them if they're too big. I can't imagine a whole worm small enough for a baby Dekay.
    Some of the earthworms in my area are more than small enough for a baby dekayi to eat. They could probably eat 2 or 3 of them.
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    Re: Finally got one!

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
    No matter what snake, it will always have predators, and will always seek cover. Therefore they will always be where cover is.

    Your cage is ok. Bedding can't be the only hide. She's doing that partly cause that's all she's got. I'd put a hide on both sides of the cage.

    Don't make it too hot, even on the hot side. Dekayis like it cool.
    So the hollow rock and the leaves aren't enough? I'll see about getting a fake log or something in that case. I could always toss in a paper towel roll in the meantime.

    Also the room is air conditioned. but I'll turn the pad off before I go to bed. Perhaps it would be best to only have it on a few hours at a time.
    when I was little they called me the snake man... as I was usually carrying around a bucket full of brown snakes.

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    Re: Finally got one!

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    If they are tiny earthworms you can leave them whole. They would take them whole in the wild.
    Don't leave out slugs on your food hunt.
    I'll make sure to grab them if I see them, also there are a lot of snails in my backyard. I read somewhere that brown snakes have a special jaw that allows them to get the meat out of their shells, it might be worth trying if I can't find any slugs... though since it just rained I should be able to find them.
    when I was little they called me the snake man... as I was usually carrying around a bucket full of brown snakes.

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    Re: Finally got one!

    Dekayis' are a cool temp operating snake. Unless the room gets very cold you probably don't ever need a heat pad.
    Wayne(infernalis) is our resident dekayi expert, hope he'll see this thread and respond.
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    Re: Finally got one!

    Ok I'll toss it then. I suppose that makes sense, it never gets very hot up here...

    Perhaps it will be more useful in the winter... though we have electric heating...
    when I was little they called me the snake man... as I was usually carrying around a bucket full of brown snakes.

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    Re: Finally got one!

    HI!. I'm strapped for time at the moment.. I have been keeping Dekayi for years, as well as read all the information I could absorb and studied them on my property.

    Dekayi are always first out in the spring and last out in the autumn. They hunt for food primarily in the early PM when the sun has dropped below the horizon, they spend all day in shady damp areas to stay cool.

    Even if you keep your home at 60 degrees (F) all winter long, your snake will be perfectly comfortable. Heat is the enemy.

    For a lamp, I use fluorescent spiral bulbs, they are cool operating and won't warm up the cage.

    Your snake looks female and pregnant as well.

    Raising babies is a challenge, believe me, they are super tiny and most neonates will only take slugs, little tiny slugs and maybe if you are lucky newborn night crawlers, and I can honestly say hatchling night crawlers are difficult to find.






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    Re: Finally got one!

    Boy you guys weren't kidding about the babies being small! Wow!
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    Re: Finally got one!

    Quote Originally Posted by infernalis View Post
    HI!. I'm strapped for time at the moment.. I have been keeping Dekayi for years, as well as read all the information I could absorb and studied them on my property.

    Dekayi are always first out in the spring and last out in the autumn. They hunt for food primarily in the early PM when the sun has dropped below the horizon, they spend all day in shady damp areas to stay cool.

    Even if you keep your home at 60 degrees (F) all winter long, your snake will be perfectly comfortable. Heat is the enemy.

    For a lamp, I use fluorescent spiral bulbs, they are cool operating and won't warm up the cage.

    Your snake looks female and pregnant as well.

    Raising babies is a challenge, believe me, they are super tiny and most neonates will only take slugs, little tiny slugs and maybe if you are lucky newborn night crawlers, and I can honestly say hatchling night crawlers are difficult to find.

    Thanks for the advice... finding tiny slugs may be a challenge... I know from experience that my garden is full of snails and slugs, the snails have greenish shells with a spiral, and the slugs are I think Limax maximus. I've seen brown snakes regirgitate those when stressed so I know they eat them, whether or not they should is another story. Since they tend to be huge It might be a challenge to get the babies to eat them. Thankfully I should have a few weeks to figure it out.

    Do you suppose they'd eat clams? I have a Quahogging license and I usually end up with so many that I have to freeze them for chowder, they are mollusks and are probably comparable in nutritional content.
    when I was little they called me the snake man... as I was usually carrying around a bucket full of brown snakes.

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    Re: Finally got one!

    Here's a cheap suggestion for a hide: a small flower pot turned upside down. Like 50c at Wal-Mart. Use a pair of pliers to break a small hole in the rim to serve as a door. If you feel ambitious, you can top with some coconut fiber or straw for that "Thatch Roof Cottage" look (just keep an eye out for Burninators).

    Someone else around here suggests empty halves of coconuts, but since they can't be carried by European Swallows, and African Swallows are non-migratory, you'll have to make do as best you can.
    People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.

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    Re: Finally got one!

    while we are on the topic of teeny snakes

    Northern Redbelly I caught


    I'd imagine dekayi/brown snakes are much easier to take care of than these

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