Some of my Garters...

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah it would be awesome to see you in Indy!! And on another note, my male eastern Blackneck came in yesterday, he is a smoker!!

I would get him one of those smoke eating ashtrays.

[erinlovessnakes]

If you have any babies with those snakes tell me because I love snakes the most when they are tiny.

[RedSidedSPR]

Well, you better like them when they big, or there's no point in getting one

[Selkielass]

If you have any babies with those snakes tell me because I love snakes the most when they are tiny.

You might want to look into the smaller varieties of garters like Butlers Garters and IIRC Northwesterns.

My Butlers are full grown females, and they are only about 18-20 inches long, and weigh a fraction of my (still growing) Eastern. They are sweet tempered little things and they like to sit on their climbing branch and bask all day long.

[ConcinusMan]

If you have any babies with those snakes tell me because I love snakes the most when they are tiny.

Then you would love northwesterns. They often stay very tiny and "baby-like" for quite a bit longer than other garters. My Miss piggy is a northwestern and has been an adult for a few years. She's still under 25 inches. I've seen females give birth to one or two babies when mom was less than 18 inches long.

[kibakiba]

Yep northwesterns stay fairly small and grow very slowly. My 1 year old is only 6 inches

[RedSidedSPR]

Ok that is just weird..... my redside and eastern are 8 and 7 inches ad they're 2 and 1 month old...

[ConcinusMan]

I've seen small litters (less than 10 offspring) of T. sirtalis concinnus' born at around 7-10 inches and I've seen large litters of 30-50 of them born 5-7 inches. At the end of a year, they're all pretty much the same size. There doesnt' seem to be any advantage being born bigger or smaller other than a better survival rate among smaller litters.

All my northwestern litters have always been low numbers (1-7 offspring) AND small babies, 3-6 inches. At the end of a year, even they're thriving and growing well, they can still be only 6-7 inches at a year old. They are one species where size doesn't seem to matter an they are in no hurry to get big.

[kibakiba]

Nope, Runt was only 4 inches at a year old. Thumbelina is a male, so he's growing faster than she did.

[RedSidedSPR]

Wow. I knew northwesterns were small, but not THAT small