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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    I am not here to argue a point, merely to inject my personal observations. There is one thing for sure, none of us really know what any of our morphs are unless someone with the ability to do so stepped up and did some serious testing. it's totally possible that the gene that does this to redsideds is neither melanistic -or- anery. And the translucency of the facial features and lack of all coloration points to this possibly being the case.
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    OR it's also possible that this one single gene is responsible for both a lack of production of color pigments and an increased production of melanin, which it does appear these snakes have. Yes they do lack red, so calling them anery is right, but they also lack all their yellow so they could have equally been dubbed axanthics. And as such they also appear to have a greatly increased amount of black pigment, right down to their eyes, and by definition, a hypermelanistic animal simply has increased amounts of melanin. Where or how it is distributed can depend on the type of melanism as I am sure there is more than one mutation that can cause melanism just as there is more than one that causes albinism. There are many, many examples of types of snakes that have a melanistic form that still retains a pattern. However, due to the transparency of the skin in these red sideds,( that is where they are getting that weird bluish tint from) it's quite possible that it's a unique type of mutation that is more complex than just being melanistic, or just being anery. It may not be either! The transparency points to this being possible and the fact that possibly this gene goes so far as to alter the physical makeup of the layers of skin.
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    I definitely agree that there's alot left unanswered. The melanistics seem to be a. Little easier to say for sure but the difference between what's called an anery or an axathic can easily be debated. So Im with you on who ever names it, lets go with it. Very beautiful snakes and great pictures from every one
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Ditto Randy

    Scott you know better than to bite into troll bait, you just couldn't resist could you, lol

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Good thread! This might be my favorite morph. Love love LOVE the one in your last pic Scott!
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Jeff, Righto bud ! Should know better !

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    with all the numerous similarities and only the one difference, my opinion will always be what it is now, dont get mad at me and call me a troll cuz i dont agree with you...i know that you know scott, that i know what those animals look like and your showing me pictures for what? put a picture up of the "leopard" morph so everyone can see what a patterned melanistic morph looks like...does the melanistic eastern have erythrins or axanthins...i say no

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Scott you still want to debate this cuz ive got more on the subject?

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    ::sigh::
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Yeah.

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