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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    i still say those things are "melanistic" not anery!

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Waynes, or all of them?

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
    Love that one, man!! Almost no white, that's awesome! Is that all the same snake?
    No, I have 2 of them.

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Hey Joey, do we need to go over the genetics again on anery vs mel ?? lol Top two pics are melanistic (eastern & wandering), bottom one is anery red sided.

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Thanks, I like the anery, but he has more white than I like... Still very cool.

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Those anery red sideds are awesome looking as adults.
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    They really do. It's one of my favorite morphs.

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    you wanna go over the genitics with me Scott...come on lets go...but first let me point out the similarities...black bellies, white chins, whitish to greyish pattern(same with sirtalis sirtalis, we've seen it), both created snows, you put em next to normals and they look black and not all melanistics have to look the same

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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    A name is a name.... That's all it is! No need to argue over what they are called... We could argue terminology all day but no one is right unless the snakes skins were actually tested to see which pigments are present, in which concentrations, and which pigments the gene actually affects. And that goes for all morphs, when we are using terminology such as amelanistic, anerythristic, it is ALL speculative without the data to back it up.The one thing that does tend to confuse people is that the term anerythristic refers to a gene that removes one specific type of pigment.. In this case the reds... Or erythrins or erythrophores or whatever the heck they are called. When you look at the anery redsided, you can clearly see that there is not only a lack of reds in the snake, but a lot more going on, from the increased amounts of dark coloration, to the lack of all other color... All of the yellows and browns and tans are also gone and in what the world traditionally sees as anerythristic, doest match up with what these guys look like. I think that's the major point of confusion as I have had people commet on anery red sideds at shows before, asking me why they are called anery. The fact remains though that Scott named them anery so, that is what they are called. I don't always agree with the terminology that people use to name their snakes, especiAlly all those fancy ball python morph names like "killer bee" and "mystic potion" (combos, but you get the idea!) but I do want to point out that names are only labels we as humans give, they mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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    Re: Post pics of your anery red sideds?

    Melanistics...jet black usually w/ a patch of white on their chin..anery's have a pattern...take a good long look at the pics !! Mels have a pattern when in shed, anerys always have their pattern. End of discussion (arguing this is a moot point) lol

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