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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    A 14 year old doesn't need 6 snakes. They should have given the kid 1 and make sure that they could take care of it before sending off 5 extra. I feel bad for the snakes.
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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    There isn't much about any of this that is reasonable, especially when it results in the death of most of them.
    Most old people I've talked to literally have 0 idea about snakes, or what to do with them, or anything like that. I've watched my girlfriends grandma literally reach in with a 7 foot cage aggressive pine snake. Now, take into account it's a 14 year old kid, probably with absolutely 0 experience, and probably thinks you can feed garters bugs. He probably did all sorts of things but had no idea how to take care of them properly.

    Education would be more proper than any other option, as neither parties are being negligent on purpose. Anyone who feels the need to beat down a 14 year old kid, or a grandma, for a few snakes, is a truly disgusting individual.
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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    At any rate ... regardless of either being ill-informed ... I would want to see someone charged with neglect. They chose to husband these animals without living up to the responsibillities that come with it and caused suffering by doing so.
    They should be educated by this experience in my opinion.
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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Someone charged with neglect concerning a garter snake. No chance there.
    Remember, it's a garter snake. In the eyes of most, not worth anything.
    What a shame.
    I agree with you Greg but It just won't happen. Not in this world, not at this time.
    I'm angry with this whole situation. It repeats itself throughout this counrty on a daily basis.
    Lack of education and a lack of caring are the big problem.
    It's just a snake.
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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    A 14 year old doesn't need 6 snakes. They should have given the kid 1 and make sure that they could take care of it before sending off 5 extra. I feel bad for the snakes.
    A 14 year old, when armed with a little knowledge of husbandry, is perfectly capable of properly caring for a few garter snakes. I was only 13 and I was keeping several WC CA Kings and gopher snakes up to 5 or 6 feet long. They thrived and grew. I had them for years.
    Quote Originally Posted by gregmonsta View Post
    They chose to husband these animals without living up to the responsibillities that come with it and caused suffering by doing so.
    They should be educated by this experience in my opinion.
    Exactly. The enemy here is ignorance and that can be just as deadly to a snake even if the keeper is 40. The age of this person is irrelevant. 14 is plenty old enough to carry the responsibility for a few garter snakes.

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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    I'm with Richard. I hate it when idiots don't even TRY to know how to care for animals. If you get an animal, freakin' read about it!!! A 14 year old kid should know that!! What I really want to say wouldn't make it past the filters, so I'm done.

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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Quote Originally Posted by gregmonsta View Post
    At any rate ... regardless of either being ill-informed ... I would want to see someone charged with neglect. They chose to husband these animals without living up to the responsibillities that come with it and caused suffering by doing so.
    They should be educated by this experience in my opinion.
    So you'd charge a 14 year old or an old lady with neglect? That's pretty sad in all honesty. You don't know the circumstances of the kid keeping them. For all you know he lived in a trailer park with no internet and no means to access the knowledge on how to care for them. For all you know he did his best with what he thought was correct, and is sitting there very upset because he has no idea what went wrong and why his pets are dead.

    Man, that's why this world, and country is so far down the hole. Everyone whines and cries about each other, and wants everyone else charged and in jail for petty things.

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Someone charged with neglect concerning a garter snake. No chance there.
    Remember, it's a garter snake. In the eyes of most, not worth anything.
    What a shame.
    I agree with you Greg but It just won't happen. Not in this world, not at this time.
    I'm angry with this whole situation. It repeats itself throughout this counrty on a daily basis.
    Lack of education and a lack of caring are the big problem.
    It's just a snake.
    Exactly, education is lacking. You admit it yourself here, so why should someone be charged for not knowing any better? If anything its partially our fault for not educating BETTER, because if we had, maybe it wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    A 14 year old, when armed with a little knowledge of husbandry, is perfectly capable of properly caring for a few garter snakes. I was only 13 and I was keeping several WC CA Kings and gopher snakes up to 5 or 6 feet long. They thrived and grew. I had them for years.
    And you clearly had a love and interest in snakes, I also had many, from the time I was very young. Who's to say he's not just a 14 year old kid who thinks snakes are neat but had no intention of getting as far in depth as you. Maybe he had a small side interest in snakes while his main focus was football? Stop comparing this kid to you, because it's an awful comparison.


    Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
    I'm with Richard. I hate it when idiots don't even TRY to know how to care for animals. If you get an animal, freakin' read about it!!! A 14 year old kid should know that!! What I really want to say wouldn't make it past the filters, so I'm done.
    Not exactly a lot of books, and who knows if he ever used the computer. Who knows what he had going on in his life. You don't know the circumstances of the individual.


    I'm going to be blunt, because that's just how I am:
    We don't know this individual, his grandma, the circumstances, how the snakes where found in the first place, any of that. All we have is " some snakes died in the hands of a 14 year old kid ". The fact that some of you want criminal charges based solely on that information is repulsive. You are the type of people that probably run off with a lawsuit on mcdonalds when you spill the hot coffee claiming "omg I didn't know it was hot", when in reality "no ****, it's coffee!". This is what America is becoming, and it's repulsive.

    As for the comment about kicking the spit out of them. You are a sick individual. Any grown man who feels the need to kick the spit out of a woman, or children, is a trash member of this society. Where I come from, you mention that kind of behavior, and we put you in the hospital, and that's just what I'd do to you for such nonsense.
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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Millinex View Post
    You are a sick individual.
    Watch it.

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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Someone charged with neglect concerning a garter snake. No chance there.
    Remember, it's a garter snake. In the eyes of most, not worth anything.
    What a shame.
    I agree with you Greg but It just won't happen. Not in this world, not at this time.
    I'm angry with this whole situation. It repeats itself throughout this country on a daily basis.
    Lack of education and a lack of caring are the big problem.
    It's just a snake.
    Quote Originally Posted by Millinex View Post
    Exactly, education is lacking. You admit it yourself here, so why should someone be charged for not knowing any better? If anything its partially our fault for not educating BETTER, because if we had, maybe it wouldn't have happened.
    Ignorance is no excuse. Won't fly in court and shouldn't fly in life.

    I believe some of the comments made by others were in the heat of the moment and not what people would actually do or want.(just my opinion)
    We all could do a better job getting the word out. I'm sure many of us do what we can, when we can.
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    Re: 6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Watch it.
    You're saying someone who wants to "kick the spit" out of a 14 year old/grandma isn't? I'm going to stand by what I said 100%, just because it's the internet doesn't mean it's acceptable to say those things. Guess what, people who say that kind of garbage would NEVER say it in real life, because there would be a line of people ready to fix that attitude real damn quick.
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