granite checkered garters

[ConcinusMan]

Hi,

as soon as there are enough youngsters born to give some of them away, I will let you know.

Maybe in May/June. At least I hope so.

Kind regards,

Viviane

PS: Real Granites should be born in fall next year, if everything works fine.

Then anyone who gets some of the offspring can start inbreeding right away. You'll upside down snakes before you know it.

[mustang]

You'll upside down snakes before you know it.

doesn't matter when you upside down snakes they flip right back over



oh yes i did

[ConcinusMan]

OK Robert. I'm going to fly to Texas and wring your throat.

While I'm there, I might as well do some herping.

I meant to say "You'll have"

[mustang]

OK Robert. I'm going to fly to Texas and wring your throat.

While I'm there, I might as well do some herping.

oh oh please bring me a snake!!!!!!!!!!

[ConcinusMan]

I will find the biggest one I can and shove it straight up your...

[mustang]

I will find the biggest one I can and shove it straight up your...

......
haha...what am i gonna smart off back to him....darn it

[gartergal]

Then anyone who gets some of the offspring can start inbreeding right away. You'll upside down snakes before you know it.

dont pre predict what ill do thanks i dont believe in interbreeding , did i even say ill come for a pair? or ill drive to europe for one i believe is what i said thankyou

[ConcinusMan]

I didn't say that. If anyone wants to raise up and breed the first offspring from these, and you know everyone will, they will have to breed siblings. I said INbreed. I don't even know what you mean by interbreeding. Then the next people who buys that second generation will probably do the same thing, and so on, until you have snakes wiggling around on their backs.

I think it's great that they're finally being bred in Europe but unless they imported more than just a few pair, it won't take long for inbreeding depression to set in. Especially if the pairs they imported are already related. What they really need over there are WC totally unrelated snakes for outcrossing the lines they already have.

[Vivi]

Hi,

I am going to have het granites from two different granite males with 6 different normal females to produce two different blood lines.

My males are not from the same litter - that´s shure.

And as I am working with normal females from six different blood lines (almost all of them wc or youngsters from wc parents), there should be some youngsters here, which should not be related to each other.

And: Indeed I am trying to import some more Granites to Europe.
So if anyone has some of them to offer: Just give me a message!

At least I am not going to give them away too quickly - as there is indeed a big risk of inbreeding if I did so.

With best wishes,

Viviane

[ConcinusMan]

Sounds like a good start in the right direction.