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    Ophiuchus rhea drache's Avatar
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    Re: begining breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Yes. They're painted keelbacks (Xenochrophis), not garters (Thamnophis).
    painted keelback = xenochrophis cerasogaster
    striped keelback = xenochrophis vittatus (the ones we have)
    but definitely not garters - thamnophis - anything
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    Re: begining breeder

    They're all painted keelbacks. It's the same as with garter snakes, the original garter snake is T. sirtalis. That's what the word sirtalis means; "Like a garter". Thamnophis, by the way, is derived from the words for "bush" and "snake".

    Simply calling them keelbacks isn't recommended either, because that refers to the genus Rhabdophis.

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    Re: begining breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    They're all painted keelbacks..
    you probably have better sources that I do, Staphan
    the source I used listed the painted keelback as a separate species from the banded or striped Keelback. It also listed seven other species with various common names (Boulanger's, chequered, yellow-spotted, etc)
    All of these are referred to as keepbacks.
    There is also a painted keelback among the tropidonophis species, but I couldn't find that common name among the rhabdophis species
    of course my actual experience of any of these is nil
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    Re: begining breeder

    Maybe an addict is an idea?

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    Re: begining breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by KITKAT View Post
    To add to that...

    Look at the weather records for the area where your snakes originate. Is there a cooler, rainy season? If so, what temperatures are recorded for that period of the year?

    Then your brumation should mimic that temperature.
    To add a little more....
    Sometimes the cue to trigger breeding behaviour can be even more subtle in some species from warmer climes. Something as obscure as the arrival of a particular food species can trigger changes in behaviour. Probably not relevant to Xenochrophis, but I thought I'd mention it.
    James.

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