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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Degestion (duration and success)depends on temperature.
    Snakes with full stomac try to use the best avaliable heat source.
    Their might be small differences in species or populations but there are big differences in thermoregulation!
    Allready waiting for the sommer
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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Do you know that for a fact?
    Fact is that impactions are often made up mainly of undigested hair.

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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Fact is that impactions are often made up mainly of undigested hair.
    Correlation doesn't imply causation.

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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    ... making them more prone to impaction or constipation.
    For example, if a garter were to swallow a small piece of bark or other hard object, the presence of a significant amount of hair in the intestine really complicates matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    For example, if a garter were to swallow a small piece of bark or other hard object, the presence of a significant amount of hair in the intestine really complicates matters.
    So does the presence of any fecal matter. Quite frankly, too low humidity, too low or too high ambient temperatures and the absence of a heat gradient are probably far more likely to cause impactions.

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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Regardless of the causes, I'd rather not load them up with a lot of hair. Besides that, most of them won't let me. They just feel that hair and drop it. I found that an adult or hopper mouse will peel quite easily when it's frozen solid but you can't be the squeamish type as it requires that you do it with your bare hands.

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    Re: Scenting still not working

    He ate 2 more today!! Without scenting! The first one he thought it was a fish. I tossed it in his water bowl and he dove for it in midair and relized only to late it wasnt a fish. The second he ate out of my hand.

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    Re: Scenting still not working

    That is great news.
    I can picture the action and the happy snake.
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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Well done the conversion is in full swing.
    Keeping - 'Florida blue' sirtalis, concinnus, infernalis, parietalis, radix, marcianus and ocellatus.

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    Re: Scenting still not working

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
    He ate 2 more today!! Without scenting! The first one he thought it was a fish. I tossed it in his water bowl and he dove for it in midair and relized only to late it wasnt a fish. The second he ate out of my hand.

    That's good news! That's exactly the kind of breakthrough we should be expecting of a snake that will do well in captivity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    So does the presence of any fecal matter. Quite frankly, too low humidity, too low or too high ambient temperatures and the absence of a heat gradient are probably far more likely to cause impactions.

    I agree Stefan. It's just that we all know that we can't always provide perfect conditions. We love garters and call them "easy" to care for because they tolerate less than perfect conditions. I'm just saying that avoiding "binding" food items can help when conditions are less than ideal for them.

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