Bob Mason's thoughts on my 3-stripe polymorphic concinnus

[ConcinusMan]

Why does the name "Richard Hoyer" ring a bell?

Doesn't surprise me at all considering I've read that name in many articles, one specific thing I was reading about that involved him was the discovery of a new species of sharp tailed snake, which was mentioned in the email. Have you done any reading about rubber boas?

[Stefan-A]

Doesn't surprise me at all considering I've read that name in many articles, one specific thing I was reading about that involved him was the discovery of a new species of sharp tailed snake, which was mentioned in the email.

He's been mentioned twice on this forum before, apparently some of our formerly active members know him or know of him.

I could have sworn that I had seen that name in a profile here.

Have you done any reading about rubber boas?

Practically nothing.

[ConcinusMan]

He's been mentioned twice on this forum before, apparently some of our formerly active members know him or know of him.

I could have sworn that I had seen that name in a profile here.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he has joined and/or participated in this forum.

Also doesn't surprise me that the name sounds familiar. I mean, practically all of us know who Robert Mason is, and Richard Hoyer has been working with him, or at his lab, for years.

[Electrokate]

That is all very cool. I breed mainly fish, have no degree but a lot of reading, and have found in certain areas the scientific community has no problem with lay people putting our hands in to contribute. Some are nicer than others though. I work mainly with killifish and reef tanks.
I live in SE Portland. I found some nice ordinoides and Concinnus in the area that is being restored where Foster meets Johnson Creek. It's good to see, and the city has school kids learning to do studies of herps and other animals in this spot. I hope people don't mess with the snakes.
I am guessing you will probably say no but I would love to come photograph the snakes this spring. But I understand if you want to keep this location secret. I would.
When I was new to garters I saw a HUGE black and blue garter near Chehalis. Intense sky blue. I thought it was a morph of ordinoides but now wonder. I watched her for a while, she was majestic and very pregnant. Hope her offspring are around. Am guessing she is not, the experienced herp people said they were all pretty heavily parasitized.
Kate

[kibakiba]

It was probably a puget garter snake. They are blue. I have seen blue ordinoides but they weren't ever really intense. Compared to a puget garter, it was really dull.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Why does the name "Richard Hoyer" ring a bell?

he is the expert on rubber boas.... he lives here in Utah, along with his son Ryan, who breed various mtn kings. you won't find them on this forum... or much on the internet anymore, had some legal issues here. Ryan has the website, www.rubberboas.com has some excellent info on them!

[Stefan-A]

he is the expert on rubber boas.... he lives here in Utah, along with his son Ryan, who breed various mtn kings. you won't find them on this forum... or much on the internet anymore, had some legal issues here. Ryan has the website, www.rubberboas.com has some excellent info on them!

Okay, thanks.

[Electrokate]

How far south does the Puget Sound garter go?
Thanks,
Kate

[ConcinusMan]

As the name indicates, they are never very far from the Puget Sound. Personally, I have never seen one as far south as Chehalis but maps indicate that is as far south as they go. I lived there for a couple of years and did a lot of herping but never saw pugets there. Had to get close to Olympia before I found any.

[ConcinusMan]

The time is near. Dr. Robert Mason and his undergraduate students are going to try to make it up here next week and meet with me. Weather should be favorable for herping. We'll be visiting the den site. What an honor. Can't wait.

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