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    Re: Found on YouTube

    So that's what you were saying when you specified Kentucky zoo.

    Always pointing out exceptions.

    The site does say however..."The main purpose of Kentucky Reptile Zoo is the production of venom towards pharmaceutical research"

    Well that's definitely not the main purpose of most zoos. Also, I might point out that I've seen more modern venom extraction procedures and they still don't require any handling of the reptiles at all so nobody should be getting bit. That guy in the video was asking for trouble. My point is, it was no accident. He handled the snake and knew the risk and so I don't really call that an accident. I mean, I could cross at the crosswalk and probably be fine, but this guy ran out into trafffic, so to speak.

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    Definition of ACCIDENT

    1
    a : an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance
    b : lack of intention or necessity : chance <met by accident rather than by design>

    2
    a : an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance
    b
    : an unexpected and medically important bodily event especially when injurious <a cerebrovascular accident>
    c : an unexpected happening causing loss or injury which is not due to any fault or misconduct on the part of the person injured but for which legal relief may be sought
    d
    —used euphemistically to refer to an involuntary act or instance of urination or defecation

    3
    : a nonessential property or quality of an entity or circumstance <the accident of nationality>

    Accident - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

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    Re: Found on YouTube

    I actually didn't know about some of those definitions. But still, seems to me that there's conditions in the definitions that I was getting at. "unforseen" & "unexpected". Neither of those words should have applied being how he was messing around with an angry venomous snake and that's what I was getting at.

    I sure as heck wouldn't call it an accident if I ran out into a busy street, knowing what could happen, and then got hit by a car. That's not an accident. Getting hit would have to have been unexpected and/or unforeseen to call it an accident, wouldn't it?

    I think the same thing applies to someone who is willingly handling a venomous snake. Nobody is surprised he got bit. It was foreseeable and maybe even expected.

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    Re: Found on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I sure as heck wouldn't call it an accident if I ran out into a busy street, knowing what could happen, and then got hit by a car. That's not an accident. Getting hit would have to have been unexpected and/or unforeseen to call it an accident, wouldn't it?
    What might happen. Lots of things might happen.

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    Re: Found on YouTube



    Part two, apparently.

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    So, I asked the guy (comment pending approval) why he was handling such a dangerous snake in the first place ("Members of this genus are responsible for more fatalities in the Americas than any other group of venomous snakes") but then I'm listening and it sounds like perhaps he was doing this for a TV show? Animal Planet Fatal Attraction. In other words, showing off and taking risks for the sake of entertainment. I don't even know what to say about that. Almost makes me want to have more sympathy for the snake than for him.

    Would serve him right if he lost that hand, but it does look pretty good so I don't think that will happen.

    Oh jeez. nevermind. He works at the KY reptile zoo. Still, isn't there some way to get venom without taking such risks? I mean, the guy has been envenomated several times and has already lost fingers.

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    Re: Found on YouTube

    It sounds like this guy has been down this road before.
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    Yeah, sorry steve, I edited


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    Re: Found on YouTube



    The last part.

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