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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    I was just holding my big female Hypo Bull Snake, when I decided to see some of my radix girls. I opened the enclosure up with the Bull snake on my shoulder.
    My girls rushed out to smell the big girl and showed no signs of fear or concern. Some even climbed up on her and me.
    Lightning(Bull Snake) showed no interest in my radix girls.
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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I was just holding my big female Hypo Bull Snake, when I decided to see some of my radix girls. I opened the enclosure up with the Bull snake on my shoulder.
    My girls rushed out to smell the big girl and showed no signs of fear or concern. Some even climbed up on her and me.
    Lightning(Bull Snake) showed no interest in my radix girls.
    So are you saying that he might not care about having a new snake in the house?

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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    It's possible the new snake had nothing to do with it.
    Many things can trigger a response like you described but without the presence of other factors you have to lean towards the new addition.
    Steve
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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    I agree

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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    His eyes turned milky and blue which is making me think he might have been starting to go into shed and that could have added to his fear... But I just noticed the actual major difference in his eyes yesterday.. I don't know how long of a period they are in pre-shed and shed for.. He hasn't started the actual skin shedding process yet... Here's two pics of his eyes, the second one is the best
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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    Shedding will take place a few days after the eyes go back to normal.
    Make sure there is plenty of water available.
    Most of my snakes presoak before they shed.
    After the shed, inspect the old shed. Look for the 2 eye caps and a complete tail shed.
    Best of luck.
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    Re: Does he sense an intruder? HELP!

    Flicker, the high red northwestern male, just turned cloudy too but I noticed his colors fade before that. For the most part, northwesterns aren't really big on soaking unless you're keeping them very dry and low humidity. In fact, my concinnus don't pre-shed soak either, for the same reason. As you know, I'm using fir bark / coconut fiber and moss. I keep an area of it damp, letting it dry between spraying. This helps keep an adequate humidity level in the tank since the heat sources can make way too dry if you don't spray. Ever since he went cloudy, he's been spending all his time buried in the damp area with his head sticking out. Given the option, concinnus and northwesterns will choose settling down damp substrate and high humidity over soaking. Those conditions are possible and preferable so long as it dries out quickly so I spray daily or every few days, especially for babies, and snakes in shed.

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