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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    TY
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    1.1 Woma (Sun Burst), 2.1 Eastern Blackneck, 3.3 Plains Garter, 3.1 Puget Sound,
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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    I´m my oppinion these should be seen as and intergradients of a natural occuring and a designer morph.
    Erythristics are occuring in the wild, but they would not migrate 50 miles to find the most red mate.
    Another example:
    We are selecting redsides for four or five generations now. We´ve started by mating Redsided Garters from different populations. They were hand picked from all imported snakes in the petshops. Of course we only took the nicest, brightest most red avaliable specimens. If´you now compare Steve´s fotos from Narcisse to the breeders, I´ve posted in the "next seasons breeding project" thread, you´ll see very differing `morphs´.
    Allready waiting for the sommer
    best wishes bis bald Udo
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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    I suppose so.

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    Re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains



    These six siblings will move soon to spend the rest of their life with Sabine!
    Allready waiting for the sommer
    best wishes bis bald Udo
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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    They will be in good hands.
    Steve
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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    Quote Originally Posted by zooplan View Post
    IWe are selecting redsides for four or five generations now.

    Four to five years breeding ... now, that is commitment.

    Nevertheless, then I guess Scott and Alan like your self do the same. I’m just a hobbyist collector.

    Note to self ... start looking for tan Easterns
    Michael
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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    Five generations are correlating to 12 years continuance in that project

    I´m a hobbyist too, but collector and allocator!
    Allready waiting for the sommer
    best wishes bis bald Udo
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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    Very very nice garter snake congrat!!One question why do we called them erythristic to me it's brown ....not red!?

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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    Good question but only some of them look brown to me. Besides that, depending on the presence of other pigments, erythristic doesn't always necessarily mean a snake will be very red.

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    re: Uniting erythristic Eastern strains

    Quote Originally Posted by charles parenteau View Post
    Very very nice garter snake congrat!!One question why do we called them erythristic to me it's brown ....not red!?
    Thank you, Charles, what do you think about their mother?
    That is, what they will become like.

    There is a taxonomy for color morphs but it does not meet with all occuring patterns. Some misstated declarations have made their way to common usage. And some rules are predestinated to missunderstanding!
    From the correct use of declaration rules: Flames and erythristic should be
    called hyper erythristic and only snakes with a completly red pattern could be named erythristic.
    Allready waiting for the sommer
    best wishes bis bald Udo
    Breeding Redsides EGSA-Chairman

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